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02-11-2006, 7:39 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 35
| Thermosman suspensions www.thermosman.com
After some research and talking to people as well as a few phone conversations with Mike I decided to send him my forks for a re-valve/spring.
Let me just say this...Mike is a fantastic guy to deal with. Very pleasant to talk to on the phone, took the time to answer all my questions in detail. Everything went exactly like he said it would, my forks came back a day or two earlier than he said they would. One of the nice things about the whole thing is that it doesn't even look like a wrench touched them.
I can't wait to go for a ride 5.27.06 UPDATE: Well his rep just took a serious hit. The shop that's working on my bike pulled my forks apart and there are 1.0 springs in there. No wonder I couldn't get the right sag out of them. This is after several phone conversations of me mentioning how much I weigh and leaving a note in the box with the forks when I sent them in. He's getting a phone call from me first thing Tuesday morning. 
Last edited by ND4SPD : 05-27-2006 at 11:50 AM.
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02-11-2006, 7:42 PM
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#2 | | Meatarian
Join Date: 05-06-2004 Location: Randolph, MA
Bike(s): 01 R/B 929 Age: 28 Posts: 12,285
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions sweet. Couple things I've read about him he seems top notch. let us know how they feel once you get it out for a good ride in the spring.
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02-11-2006, 7:53 PM
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Join Date: 06-13-2001 Location: Raleigh, NC
Bike(s): 2003 BabyRR Age: 30 Posts: 3,986
Rep Power: 13
| Re: Thermosman suspensions heh, lightweight...
Glad you got them done!  |
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02-11-2006, 7:58 PM
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Join Date: 12-29-2001 Location: New Jersey, USA
Bike(s): '01 CBR 929 black & red, K7 GSX-R600 Age: 48 Posts: 6,474
Rep Power: 17
| Re: Thermosman suspensions  I've heard nothing but good things about his work! |
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02-11-2006, 8:01 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Quote: |
Originally Posted by ccwilli3 heh, lightweight...
Glad you got them done!  | Not that light  I had to have him put stiffer springs in. |
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02-11-2006, 10:20 PM
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Join Date: 07-23-2001 Location: Motor City, Michigan
Bike(s): '01 CBR929 Age: 49 Posts: 7,983
Rep Power: 22
| Re: Thermosman suspensions FYI, some issues with Tman being discussed on the WERA board... Wera.com
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02-12-2006, 12:03 AM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions He mentioned being in Sweden in January. That could be the reason for the lack of communication in the first post  |
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02-12-2006, 7:39 PM
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Join Date: 05-23-2001 Location: Around here.
Bike(s): Addicted to them. Posts: 4,302
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions re: wera thread.
considering the alternatives...I think I'd go with t-man over most.
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02-12-2006, 9:31 PM
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Join Date: 05-09-2003 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more! Posts: 4,806
Rep Power: 24
| Re: Thermosman suspensions I read 11 pages of that **** and didn't get any resolution.. in the meantime, ND4 sent him some forks and got them back already.. |
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02-12-2006, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions I think from the time I shipped them out to the time I got them back they were gone for 3 weeks. I called him a day after he received them, he said he was backlogged 1 1/2 weeks. One week later I got a phone call asking what I wanted done. A day or two later he called me saying they were done and asked how I would like to pay. I had them in my hands 2 days later.
I'd send him another set of forks without thinking twice about it. |
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02-16-2006, 8:47 PM
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Join Date: 05-06-2003 Location: Road Atlanta
Bike(s): 02 RSVR, 01 GSXR Age: 36 Posts: 3,595
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions he did mine and i love them. i would go back to him in a heartbeat |
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02-16-2006, 9:13 PM
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#12 | | Close encounter of the wool kind
Join Date: 07-13-2004 Location: Huntsville AL
Bike(s): '04 CBR1000RR, '84 Ascot, '02 RC51 Posts: 13,839
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Do you guys know if he is open on Saturday? Or is his hours hit or miss (there is nothing on his excellant and in depth website)
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02-16-2006, 10:30 PM
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Join Date: 05-09-2003 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more! Posts: 4,806
Rep Power: 24
| Re: Thermosman suspensions Z-
What kind of stuff did he use? Race-tech? Ohlins? Somehting else/secret?
Did he just modify the valving you had in there ?
Did you ever feel you had a problem with the front, or did you think that in order to race, you just needed to upgrade from street to track orientation?
Did he say that the springs in it were inappropriate for your weight?
What did he charge for this service?
You running the stock shock? |
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02-16-2006, 11:39 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Quote: |
Originally Posted by CBRVFR Z-
What kind of stuff did he use? Race-tech? Ohlins? Somehting else/secret?
Did he just modify the valving you had in there ?
Did you ever feel you had a problem with the front, or did you think that in order to race, you just needed to upgrade from street to track orientation?
Did he say that the springs in it were inappropriate for your weight?
What did he charge for this service?
You running the stock shock? | He did a stock re-valve which he said was the most popular thing for a track day junkie and occasional racer. He did put heaver springs in, I am unsure of the brand however. I did have a choice of Race-tech or Ohlins internals as well, I just didn't feel I needed to spend the extra money. Maybe in a year or two, but for now I really think this will be enough for my current skillset and more.
I wouldn't say I had a problem with the front, but I did feel that the front of the bike dove too much. The preload was cranked down all the way and it still felt a bit soft. I probably could have gotten away with just stiffer springs, but I figured if he was gonna tear them apart, I might as well take care of the rest of it too.
The shock is still the OEM one. When DK set up my suspension at Grattan '04 we determined that it was a pretty good match for my weight at the time which hasn't changed much. |
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02-17-2006, 12:26 AM
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Join Date: 05-09-2003 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Bike(s): '92 VFR750F, SV650 track tool. 954 no more! Posts: 4,806
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Thanks - Let us know how you experience the changes.  |
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02-17-2006, 12:41 AM
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#16 | | Close encounter of the wool kind
Join Date: 07-13-2004 Location: Huntsville AL
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Quote: |
Originally Posted by CBRVFR Thanks - Let us know how you experience the changes.  | riding 
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05-27-2006, 11:50 AM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 35
| Re: Thermosman suspensions Updated first post.  |
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05-27-2006, 3:05 PM
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Join Date: 06-05-2001 Location: Murder City, Michigan
Bike(s): 2007 RC51 Age: 58 Posts: 8,271
Rep Power: 28
| Re: Thermosman suspensions Quote: |
Originally Posted by ND4SPD Updated first post.  | What springs did you spec? I know the 600rr has the top out system that skews the sag and several people have been around the block trying to dial them in. |
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05-27-2006, 3:21 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Quote: |
Originally Posted by abtech What springs did you spec? I know the 600rr has the top out system that skews the sag and several people have been around the block trying to dial them in. | I didn't tell him what springs to put in there as I know less than nothing about suspension setup. I simply told him what I weigh with gear on. From what reading I've done I know that .95 springs are what the 180lb + riders get. |
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05-27-2006, 4:06 PM
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Join Date: 06-05-2001 Location: Murder City, Michigan
Bike(s): 2007 RC51 Age: 58 Posts: 8,271
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Quote: |
Originally Posted by ND4SPD I didn't tell him what springs to put in there as I know less than nothing about suspension setup. I simply told him what I weigh with gear on. From what reading I've done I know that .95 springs are what the 180lb + riders get. | 180 is right on the bubble between .95 and 1.0. Dan wanted me to run 1.0s, but I tried them and didn't like the feel on accel or quick transitions. You may want to search on settings for the CBR600rr, as a lot of racers are running way different sag numbers than bikes without the topout spring. |
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05-27-2006, 7:21 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions Quote: |
Originally Posted by abtech 180 is right on the bubble between .95 and 1.0. Dan wanted me to run 1.0s, but I tried them and didn't like the feel on accel or quick transitions. You may want to search on settings for the CBR600rr, as a lot of racers are running way different sag numbers than bikes without the topout spring. | Exactly my point. I'm about 170 soaking wet with gear. I described the situation to the shop that is fixing the unwanted features of the bike and they are putting in .85 springs IIRC and cutting the spacers down a bit. |
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05-27-2006, 10:19 PM
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Join Date: 06-13-2001 Location: Raleigh, NC
Bike(s): 2003 BabyRR Age: 30 Posts: 3,986
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| Re: Thermosman suspensions my 03 600RR has no top out spring. I'm a big dude comparatively and have a 1.05 in my bike and I have very little preload on them with 35mm rider sag and 6mm free sag.
Were you expecting a light spring? |
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05-28-2006, 1:03 AM
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