RIPPED OFF BY CRAZY FREDDY

CrazyFreddy · 12-12-2007, 4:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BSfreddy

I would just like to say, another one ripped off by Crazy Freddys. My friend's wife just bought a quad from there for a Total of $12k. The quad retails for $2400, and yet they told her she must take an Etch discount for 5 years = which they said she had to take for insurance purposes, a exrtremely over priced Warranrty she had to take to get a special promotion, and a bunch of accessories, that were suppost to be part of the deal. They also charged her over a thousand dollars just for freight and setup. I mean the ATV itself is half that. She was buying her son a gift for x-mas, and was scammed. Shame on you Freddy for takeing advantage of a house wife. I hope you business shuts down. You are all over the internet in a bad way and not to mention these fake comments on how you are defending yourself , all lies. My friend works there, and he said its all about who you can make the biggest dollar on. Every meeting you have, you tell your Employees to take off the boxing gloves. These are people who work for a living, unlike you, how you prey on people coming into your dealerships to make the most off of them.. Your add's, please Dairy Barn has better adds then you. For any true Motorsport head, they know not to go to you. I mean do you rememeber the original Crazy Eddy......He went to jail......Seems like your headed there yourself..Tell him we all said hi.

There is no validity to this email. This is an ex-employee that was terminated 2 weeks ago.

If he has a friend that works here, how would his wife be charged $12K for a kids quad. We wouldn't charge any person $12,000 for a kids quad.

I hope the readers of this thread can see through this.

Fred

12-12-2007, 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BSfreddy

I would just like to say, another one ripped off by Crazy Freddys. My friend's wife just bought a quad from there for a Total of $12k. The quad retails for $2400, and yet they told her she must take an Etch discount for 5 years = which they said she had to take for insurance purposes, a exrtremely over priced Warranrty she had to take to get a special promotion, and a bunch of accessories, that were suppost to be part of the deal. They also charged her over a thousand dollars just for freight and setup. I mean the ATV itself is half that. She was buying her son a gift for x-mas, and was scammed. Shame on you Freddy for takeing advantage of a house wife. I hope you business shuts down. You are all over the internet in a bad way and not to mention these fake comments on how you are defending yourself , all lies. My friend works there, and he said its all about who you can make the biggest dollar on. Every meeting you have, you tell your Employees to take off the boxing gloves. These are people who work for a living, unlike you, how you prey on people coming into your dealerships to make the most off of them.. Your add's, please Dairy Barn has better adds then you. For any true Motorsport head, they know not to go to you. I mean do you rememeber the original Crazy Eddy......He went to jail......Seems like your headed there yourself..Tell him we all said hi.

Can you post up the contract? Just edit out her personal info.

Freddy, are you at all concerned about rider safety? Seems to me after following your posts that you like to find ways to part fools with their money with little to no regard for their well being.

Why not institute a program where you offer to sell an inexperienced person a small used street bike at a resonable price, help get them some experience through an MSF course or something similar, then after they have ridden for 6mos - 1 year, you offer to buy the used bike back for what they paid minus a little for millage/wear & tear, then sell them the larger more powerful bike? Just so you know, my grandfather owned a huge Harley shop long ago and used that very program & it worked very well for him over the years.

If you want customers for life that will bring in all of their family & friends along the way, show them you actually care upfront instead of having to come on the net and defend yours & your employees actions.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to have many people chiming in on this thread that aren't new members here that would sing your praises? So far I don't see that unfortunately.

You seem like a real intellegent man, time to change the way things are done.

Good luck to you.

BSfreddy · 12-12-2007, 5:19 PM

This is not an Ex employee. In Fact I can call my girlfriend and get a copy of the bill of sale. Its people like you who hurt familys. Im here just to let all the world know, that Crazy Freddy's takes advantage of people, and you stand behind doing it. You hurt great dealerships on long Island because you can flash money around.

BSfreddy · 12-12-2007, 5:23 PM

How do you post a copy of it on here??

CrazyFreddy · 12-12-2007, 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEED

Can you post up the contract? Just edit out her personal info.

Freddy, are you at all concerned about rider safety? Seems to me after following your posts that you like to find ways to part fools with their money with little to no regard for their well being.

Why not institute a program where you offer to sell an inexperienced person a small used street bike at a resonable price, help get them some experience through an MSF course or something similar, then after they have ridden for 6mos - 1 year, you offer to buy the used bike back for what they paid minus a little for millage/wear & tear, then sell them the larger more powerful bike? Just so you know, my grandfather owned a huge Harley shop long ago and used that very program & it worked very well for him over the years.

If you want customers for life that will bring in all of their family & friends along the way, show them you actually care upfront instead of having to come on the net and defend yours & your employees actions.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to have many people chiming in on this thread that aren't new members here that would sing your praises? So far I don't see that unfortunately.

You seem like a real intellegent man, time to change the way things are done.

Good luck to you.

We offer to pay for the local motorcycle classes with the purchase of a new bike. It's a deal we have with 2 or 3 schools

Bad press seems to always outweigh the good.

CrazyFreddy · 12-12-2007, 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BSfreddy

How do you post a copy of it on here??

I don't know how to scan and post, but if you are telling the truth, please call me. There is no way this could happen in one of my stores. My phone would be ringing off the hook, my accounting dept would be standing in front of me with the deal in their hands. I would of terminating anyone who would of attempted this.

Fax me the invoice to my private fax. I promise a find a way to post it 516-795-6454

Fred

CrazyFreddy · 12-12-2007, 5:34 PM

What store did this alleged plundering supposedly take place at?

BSfreddy · 12-12-2007, 5:49 PM

No need to fax it to you.. I will get a copy to post to show the world how you really do business. By taking advantage of everyone!!You will have your hands full enough with the Attorney General, not to mention DMV.

Red Rider · 12-12-2007, 7:27 PM

You can post .pdf, .jpg, .bmp, or .gif files here. If what you're saying is true...post it.

Maholli · 12-12-2007, 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Rider

You can post .pdf, .jpg, .bmp, or .gif files here. If what you're saying is true...post it.

Im going to stay on the fence until I see some proof.. Thats some pretty rough allegations.. I hope its not true for both parties sake..

smoothrideronli · 12-12-2007, 11:19 PM

I am not taking sides in this case, but I have heard the same story from many other people. I am local so I would be willing to investigate this further to get to the truth.

stoney0422 · 12-13-2007, 1:51 AM

WOW!! I just spent a lot of time reading all of this, first of all those are some outrageous allegations lets see if he can substantiate, my bet is no but i will wait and see. I have to say I hated crazy Fredy's at the beginning of this, now i feel he may have some bad apples working for him but with his offer of dealing directly with him it is quite enticing. I give you a thumbs up there freddy if a good number of people have read this thread and called or come to see you that is a lot of time out of your days and as a business owner time is very valuable. i will also say that i think some employers and possible you included should keep a closer eye on those employees who interact with the customer a lot and possibly enfoce fairly strict guidelines. Another route to go is look for people getting out of the military... i just got out in june and it really is hard for us to find a decent job but our professionalism and work ethic is normally head and shoulders above the average. Anyways enough rambling i will commend you again for coming here and sending him reimbursement that takes a lot but i will also say that you will continue to have this problem if the quality of employees is what the average is to include the dealership where i work, just food for thought lets keep the thread going.

before i forget as well.... did people stop giving rep points cuz it has been a while!

Bigdaddy75 · 12-13-2007, 1:55 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothrideronli

I am not taking sides in this case, but I have heard the same story from many other people. I am local so I would be willing to investigate this further to get to the truth.

Your local then go investigate and report back on how you were treated and what type of deal you were offered. Maybe act like a bit of an easy target and see what comes of it. Some independant feedback would be good for this thread.

CrazyFreddy · 12-13-2007, 9:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BSfreddy

No need to fax it to you.. I will get a copy to post to show the world how you really do business. By taking advantage of everyone!!You will have your hands full enough with the Attorney General, not to mention DMV.

you are full of it. If you post anything false, which that it the only way you could attempt to substantiate this absurd and false claim, I will exercise all my legal remedies possible. I suggest you go find a new job and put the past behind you.

Remember what you did and why I fired you. Firing you was the nicest thing I could have done, don't be stupid. move on.

CrazyFreddy · 12-13-2007, 9:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Maholli

Im going to stay on the fence until I see some proof.. Thats some pretty rough allegations.. I hope its not true for both parties sake..

I assure you it is not. He is an angry ex employee.

djchino · 12-13-2007, 10:40 AM

Wow, I feel like there is a wolf in the sheep pen...lol.. Filling everyones ears with niceties. Trying to argue his "point" when the fact of the matter is, this guy's company is jipping people. I suppose you could point your finger at the consumer and say, "you didnt read the fine print!" But then you could shoot back at the dealer and say "you swindled me, you coaxed me into buying something at an outrageous amount of money, and then you added things at an inflated price!"

I'm sure according to the law, this guy has everything kosher, unless enough people get together and file a class action law suit, nothing will probably happen.

This crazy freddy guy mentioned previously how he was above "mom and pop" stores, with my experience at "mom and pop" stores, they didnt try and screw me, and they mislead, or pull the "shoulda read the fine print line" on me. So with crazy freddy you get lower (at first) prices, deceptive deals, and these guys pushing motorcycles like yayo. Those "mom and pop" stores he put / or is going to put out of business are for the most part the opposite. You lose personalized service and that "good ol' feeling" for a corporate bike pusher whos only aim is maximizing profits.

Me personally, I will never shop a Crazy Freddy's, I will tell my friends not to shop at Crazy Freddy's. I'm the Business Manager in my m/c, I will tell them not to shop at Crazy Freddys. When we go to parties, I will get on the mic, and in front of the hundreds of members from the other m/c's, tell them about this forum, and let them know not to shop a Crazy Freddys.

I will continue this until ethical business practices are standard in Crazy Freddy's. I've been looking for something to do this winter, I think I found it.

Red Rider · 12-13-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by djchino

Wow, I feel like there is a wolf in the sheep pen...lol.. Filling everyones ears with niceties. Trying to argue his "point" when the fact of the matter is, this guy's company is jipping people. I suppose you could point your finger at the consumer and say, "you didnt read the fine print!" But then you could shoot back at the dealer and say "you swindled me, you coaxed me into buying something at an outrageous amount of money, and then you added things at an inflated price!"

Can't pass judgment on the legalities of any of Crazy Freddy's transactions, but if a buyer signs a contract without reading it first than it's his own damn fault. It's these same dumb asses who've signed loans that have caused the subprime mortgage nightmare in this country. Caveat emptor...

cbr1krider · 12-13-2007, 12:14 PM

Twincam · 12-13-2007, 12:49 PM

How comes BSFREDDY hasn’t responded since? Im still waiting...? Why has he made an account with the name BSFREDDY? Im not taking sides here, but come on, get a life.

I don’t know why people who have random problems with someone start going off on one... I have got some problems of my own (not related to fireblades.org), but this forum is for sharing good information that is valuable to other riders.

Sorry if I sound harsh, but here he is trying to help anyone who has problems and you def have one - now ring him up, and settle your differences through there - or better, pass the number to your mate and let them call him.

Ride safely everyone

smoothrideronli · 12-13-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Twincam

How comes BSFREDDY hasn’t responded since? Im still waiting...? Why has he made an account with the name BSFREDDY? Im not taking sides here, but come on, get a life.

I don’t know why people who have random problems with someone start going off on one... I have got some problems of my own (not related to fireblades.org), but this forum is for sharing good information that is valuable to other riders.

Sorry if I sound harsh, but here he is trying to help anyone who has problems and you def have one - now ring him up, and settle your differences through there - or better, pass the number to your mate and let them call him.

Ride safely everyone

Maybe he hasnt been on here because he has a life...

. I will beleive the help when I see it. But these forums are for information whether its positive or otherwise.

gthotchkiss · 12-13-2007, 1:02 PM

Hey mods, did ya'll check the ips of these guys to see if its the same guy?

Just a thought...

Maholli · 12-13-2007, 1:03 PM

Seems like everyone has been bashing Freddy but really how many of you have been ripped of by Freddy yourselves? This he said she said or my cousins brothers friend or my friends girl or anyone other than yourself is just meaningless accusations.. There are 2 sides to every story.. SO if you personally weren't ripped off yourself than how does anyone know what really happened.. I have yet to see any proof about any of these accusations.. Yes his BBB report wasn't the best but I can assure I have seen worse.. Its hard to own 4 dealerships selling cars, boats and motorcycles and still be able to make it by just ripping everyone off..

BSfreddy · 12-13-2007, 1:58 PM

First off Im not an Ex employee. Second the bill of sale Def. states a youth quad was bought for not 12k, but 14k. Im sure you know what bill of sale this is. Crazy Freddy's sold it to this person. Im a friend of who you sold this ridiculous deal to. Does anyone watch Arnold Diaz Channel 2 news "Shame on you"???

Twincam · 12-13-2007, 2:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BSfreddy

First off Im not an Ex employee. Second the bill of sale Def. states a youth quad was bought for not 12k, but 14k. Im sure you know what bill of sale this is.

Will you be able to post anything up on the site for us to see?

Have you rung him yet?

CrazyFreddy · 12-13-2007, 3:03 PM

No person has contacted me. No person has faxed me. This person won't even say what store this alleged incident took place. This is a waste of everyones time because it is not true.

Fred

THE JESTER · 12-13-2007, 3:13 PM

I might be new to this forum but come on it's time to put up or shut up now.If it's genuine show us theres no point in making threats about what you can do if you can't back it up .

quote=BSfreddy;645358]No need to fax it to you.. I will get a copy to post to show the world how you really do business. By taking advantage of everyone!!You will have your hands full enough with the Attorney General, not to mention DMV.[/quote]