I got well screwed

cabbie · 01-28-2009, 6:41 PM

Just a warning about DougDeGood07

I payed $520 + $100 shipping for a 929 front wheel and forks, I viewed pix of the items he posted in his for sale thread, they looked ok so I payed the money, Doug later said the shipping was more than he thought so I sent another $40 to help.
When the wheel and forks arrived I was gutted, this was what he sent:

You don't have to spin the wheel to see how damaged it is!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...DSCF0005-5.jpg

There are 5 buckles in total and the wheel is unrepairable.
The right hand fork is bent slightly and the upper tubes are covered in dents and scratches, some more pix, All the pix he posted before the sale are now removed, wonder why?
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...Photo017-5.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...Photo019-3.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...DSCF0004-9.jpg

So to some up what this sale has cost me:

$520 for the wheel & forks

$100 shipping

$40 extra for shipping

£101 customs charges

£115 for another "straight" front wheel

£115 to get the fork straightened

So thats $640 + £330 ($417)

TOTAL $1,057 and the wheel DougDeGood07 sent me is in the rubbish

Doug did offer to refund me $235 in $50 instalments but only if I closed the paypal dispute, as it turned out he didn't have to worry as paypal only investigate none delivery not quality of goods, so well done Doug you got me good and proper

exit90a · 01-28-2009, 6:53 PM

Is he a member here or an ebay seller. Are you saying the for sale pics he posted are not what you received and that he stated their condition as better than what you got? Bad buisness man ,sorry to hear it.

bladeracer · 01-28-2009, 6:56 PM

Looks like that stuff's being lying in a paddock for a few years.
How bad is the wheel?
My 929 wheel has a pretty hefty dent in it but it's never caused any problems.

It's a real shame as I've often recommended this place ahead of Ebay for anybody chasing Blade stuff.

cabbie · 01-28-2009, 7:01 PM

00' 929 Part Out! Check it out, amazing deals...!

Here's the for sale thread and he quotes:

"I will be stripping down the bike tomorrow and cleaning everything to superb condition"

He asked for the thread to be deleted, wonder why?

BigBassTurd · 01-28-2009, 7:06 PM

Yeah I saw he wanted the thread deleted and left bad rep for that. What a scammer.I believe Cabbie that nothing was mentioned about the damage because who would pay that much for it. Plus who the hell would try to sell crap like this except a SCAMMER.

bladeracer · 01-28-2009, 7:11 PM

"For any creditibility on my forum status of selling/buying/communicating, I am part of a few forums with the same username of DougDegood07..

Stuntlife.com
**********
Planetminis.com
Fiddylife.com
Cbrforum.com"

If you're up to it you might want to join some other forums and warn other people as well.

bladeracer · 01-28-2009, 7:27 PM

He's also selling the other 929 that he replaced at least the engine and tank on so my guess is all the good stuff went into making that one for sale and the junk is what he sold on.
2001 929rr, $2950 OBO W/Clean Title

cabbie · 01-28-2009, 7:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bladeracer

He's also selling the other 929 that he replaced at least the engine and tank on so my guess is all the good stuff went into making that one for sale and the junk is what he sold on.
2001 929rr, $2950 OBO W/Clean Title

Now I get it, the pictures he showed me were of a red 929 that looked good, the forks arrived with a piece of "yellow" broken front fender still attached as the screw was rounded out, so he sent be the front end off the crashed bike! nice

bladeracer · 01-28-2009, 7:37 PM

Strangely, he's selling the other 929 for his brother but two weeks earlier he posted about his brother's 954...

Akro or Yoshimura - Full or slipon?
"My brother has the full system on his 954."

bladeracer · 01-28-2009, 7:44 PM

If only we'd known before ;-)

Random :: 022.jpg picture by DougDegood07 - Photobucket

shakey1378 · 01-28-2009, 7:47 PM

damn that sucks. I think we may need to put a post limit or some kind of dedicated trader rating on people, similar to rep but only for transactions.

i have been noticing people joining our forums just to try to sell something. i really dont think that should be allowed in here. i also hang out on newcelica.org and they have a trader rating system.

paypal sucks if thats the case. according to those rules you can buy something and as long as you receive "anything in any condition" your screwed. pretty crappy on paypals part

hopefully karma takes care of DougDegood07. shes a b!tch that bites hard. what goes around comes around so maybe lil dougie do good will get his soon enough...

if my post seems all over the place im sorry. this kind of thing really gets me crazy.

cabbie · 01-28-2009, 7:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakey1378

hopefully karma takes care of DougDegood07. shes a b!tch that bites hard. what goes around comes around so maybe lil dougie do good will get his soon enough...

Oh don't worry about that, I'll be out in Florida late march with the boys playing golf, I'm sure a little road trip will be in order.

firebladeking · 01-28-2009, 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbie

as it turned out he didn't have to worry as paypal only investigate none delivery not quality of goods, so well done Doug you got me good and proper

hey cabbie, sorry about your loss man, people like this piss me off big time,

I'm sure you can open a dispute on paypal for an item "significantly not as described" but you would have have had to send the parts back and prove with a postage tracking number.
suppose this doesn't help now though.

dicksneeed · 01-28-2009, 7:58 PM

With all due respect, why didn't you ask for more pictures. As for Pay Pal they should cover items not as described. I would keep on them till you get it resolved. After all that is supposed to be one of the benefits of using their service. Sucks you live so far. Thats grounds for a road trip and a good beat down. Best of luck w/ the situation.

cabbie · 01-28-2009, 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicksneeed

With all due respect, why didn't you ask for more pictures.

I saw two full pages of pictures, close up's etc of the forks and wheel and they were perfect sitting on a red 929, BUT, I didn't get that front end, I got the crashed front end off the yellow 929, he deleted all the pix soon as I sent the money.

lanbrown · 01-28-2009, 8:14 PM

Always use a Credit Card with PayPal. Then you have recourse from the PayPal circus. If PayPal doesn't want to investigate the issue, then dispute the charge(s). Then if PayPal wants their money back, they can go after the seller.

Doug hasn't been on since the 26th.

firebladeking · 01-28-2009, 8:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dicksneeed

As for Pay Pal they should cover items not as described. I would keep on them till you get it resolved. After all that is supposed to be one of the benefits of using their service.

ive been through this all before, paypal do not reimburse postage fees, which means cabbie would have to pay the $100 to recieve them, plus the $100 to send them back, plus the £100 for customs duty.

which means he would have potentially forked out over $350 and have nothing to show for it!

if the paypal dispute is awarded to cabbie, and DougDeGood07 has already drawn the money out of his paypal account, paypal cant give any money back.

i went through this sh*t about 2 months ago

shakey1378 · 01-28-2009, 8:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbie

Oh don't worry about that, I'll be out in Florida late march with the boys playing golf, I'm sure a little road trip will be in order.

i could see the newspaper headlines "florida man found with 9 iron lodged in rectum"

MACI4LIFE · 01-28-2009, 8:17 PM

the seller should have stated any damage on the selling descriptions. And he took pictures of different items being sold, so no amount of pictures would have shown the real wheels and forks.

Brett Haven · 01-28-2009, 8:50 PM

Thank you for the warning. People like this need to get a clue. Maybe one day they will screw the wrong person and be dealt with swiftly from the scorned buyer.

And people like you Cabbie deserve a pat on the back for spreading the word. Cabbie managed to let me know of his bad experience on the other thread he has here at the Org. I will now not be in any way looking to purchase the bike he has listed. Thanks again, and may Karma take care of the rest.

hillbilly · 01-28-2009, 9:35 PM

I wouldn't hold much hope of paypal resolving anything. I had a similar problem with an internet transaction done through paypal a few years back. The $915 I paid to a guy in Belgium for an advertised item that didn't turn up never came home. Paypal took no responsibility for it at all. Try your credit card insurance if you paid by card.

cabbie · 01-29-2009, 12:32 PM

This gets better, I sent the forks to Firefox racing Tuesday for straightening and repair and they called today to let me know the forks are beyond economical repair!

So thats the wheel AND the forks in the rubbish.

Hey DougDeGood, I'll see you late march for a discussion about this.

bladeracer · 01-29-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillbilly

I wouldn't hold much hope of paypal resolving anything. I had a similar problem with an internet transaction done through paypal a few years back. The $915 I paid to a guy in Belgium for an advertised item that didn't turn up never came home. Paypal took no responsibility for it at all. Try your credit card insurance if you paid by card.

I bought a set of GSXR forks about six months ago from a US wrecker but they never gave me a tracking number from USPS. Actually, they did give me a number but it wasn't a tracking number. It was apparently a preliminary number that they got simply for ringing to get a postage quote without actually sending anything. When the forks never arrived, all Paypal cared about was the tracking number. If the seller had a tracking number to prove they'd sent them then Paypal wouldn't have reimbursed me.
Worked out okay for me although it meant I lost interest in some other stuff they had :-)

Jetpilot07 · 01-29-2009, 12:44 PM

florida trip anyone?

redheadedrider · 01-29-2009, 2:10 PM

a sad state of affairs

Sideshow bob · 01-29-2009, 3:09 PM

!

...., can think of a place you could use* those forks and that wheel

*ok... INSERT

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macca9540 · 01-29-2009, 3:27 PM

String him up by his nuts!

reeseyboy · 01-29-2009, 4:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbie

Oh don't worry about that, I'll be out in Florida late march with the boys playing golf, I'm sure a little road trip will be in order.

I'm out there early April if you want a hand!!

fighter954rr · 01-29-2009, 4:40 PM

Thats a real shame man, i'd love to get my hands on the ****er, people like that do me head in...

stevecbr1000 · 01-29-2009, 5:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbie

This gets better, I sent the forks to Firefox racing Tuesday for straightening and repair and they called today to let me know the forks are beyond economical repair!

So thats the wheel AND the forks in the rubbish.

Hey DougDeGood, I'll see you late march for a discussion about this.

sorry to hear that cabbie, i think most of us have been ripped of by someone through either paypal or ebay, to many tossers about these days,

are you still after a wheel and forks for your 929?, as a have some, im just outside London, you can view them in person, before parting with cash, let me know.