929/954 Steering Stem - Possibly

Nates01929 · 05-29-2009, 11:56 AM

I may need a new one, the one I got with my forks on ebay has some boogered up threads and not sure if it is going to let me tighten the nuts down on it. Anyone have one?

Nathan

bladeracer · 05-29-2009, 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nates01929

I may need a new one, the one I got with my forks on ebay has some boogered up threads and not sure if it is going to let me tighten the nuts down on it. Anyone have one?

Nathan

Depending on how much thread you have to play with you might be able to put a washer underneath so the nut torques down a little higher up where the thread might be better.

Nates01929 · 05-29-2009, 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

Depending on how much thread you have to play with you might be able to put a washer underneath so the nut torques down a little higher up where the thread might be better.

Heh, I was actually thinking the same thing, so I went to the local Farm Supply store and got a big ass washer, it's prob 3/16 thick atleast, may have to try that, does the top triple clamp get close to the middle nut?

bladeracer · 05-29-2009, 8:27 PM

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Heh, I was actually thinking the same thing, so I went to the local Farm Supply store and got a big ass washer, it's prob 3/16 thick atleast, may have to try that, does the top triple clamp get close to the middle nut?

The top clamp keeps the tubes aligned, it doesn't put pressure on the bearings. I have actually seen people try to tension the steering head bearings by tightening down the top clamp nut to ridiculous levels of torque.

Set the bearing tension with the bottom nut then hold it in position and tighten the lock nut down onto it. Then drop the top clamp on and tighten the nut down. Then set the fork height (with the lower clamp pinch bolts) and tighten the upper clamp pinch bolts. Then tighten the clip-on positioning bolts into the top clamp (they stop the bars folding in against the tank in a crash) and finally tighten the clip-on pinch bolts.

Nates01929 · 05-29-2009, 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

The top clamp keeps the tubes aligned, it doesn't put pressure on the bearings. I have actually seen people try to tension the steering head bearings by tightening down the top clamp nut to ridiculous levels of torque.

Set the bearing tension with the bottom nut then hold it in position and tighten the lock nut down onto it. Then drop the top clamp on and tighten the nut down. Then set the fork height (with the lower clamp pinch bolts) and tighten the upper clamp pinch bolts. Then tighten the clip-on positioning bolts into the top clamp (they stop the bars folding in against the tank in a crash) and finally tighten the clip-on pinch bolts.

Yea, I'm just wondering if there is enough room to use that thick of a washer, I assume there will be.

fido · 05-31-2009, 12:01 PM

Food for thought.
I have a 929 that was in a crash. The front forks were bent and the stem I believe was stretched (about .07" play in the brgs.) The threads where the bottom nut was were damaged.
Is your stem safe?

Nates01929 · 05-31-2009, 3:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fido

Food for thought.
I have a 929 that was in a crash. The front forks were bent and the stem I believe was stretched (about .07" play in the brgs.) The threads where the bottom nut was were damaged.
Is your stem safe?

The stem I have now seems to be perfect except for the damaged threads, the forks that are in it are straight. I will make sure it's not tweaked though, thanks for the suggestion.

Nathan

Nates01929 · 06-01-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

The top clamp keeps the tubes aligned, it doesn't put pressure on the bearings. I have actually seen people try to tension the steering head bearings by tightening down the top clamp nut to ridiculous levels of torque.

Set the bearing tension with the bottom nut then hold it in position and tighten the lock nut down onto it. Then drop the top clamp on and tighten the nut down. Then set the fork height (with the lower clamp pinch bolts) and tighten the upper clamp pinch bolts. Then tighten the clip-on positioning bolts into the top clamp (they stop the bars folding in against the tank in a crash) and finally tighten the clip-on pinch bolts.

Got it put back together tonight, I have a question though. I noticed on my old forks after we had the new forks and everything tightened up that there were metal c-clips around each fork that snapped into a groove, the new forks have this groove but didn't have these clips, I'm assuming they are to keep the clip-ons from sliding down? Also, my forks stick out of the top of the upper triple clamp about 1/8th of an inch and those grooves are actually underneath where the clip-ons are, is this wrong? I took it down the road and other than being a little nervous since I had never rode before it felt ok. Does it sound like i need to get it off the ground and adjust the forks? They were tightened into the lower clamp when I got them, so I just assumed they were in the correct position.

bladeracer · 06-01-2009, 12:57 AM

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Got it put back together tonight, I have a question though. I noticed on my old forks after we had the new forks and everything tightened up that there were metal c-clips around each fork that snapped into a groove, the new forks have this groove but didn't have these clips, I'm assuming they are to keep the clip-ons from sliding down? Also, my forks stick out of the top of the upper triple clamp about 1/8th of an inch and those grooves are actually underneath where the clip-ons are, is this wrong? I took it down the road and other than being a little nervous since I had never rode before it felt ok. Does it sound like i need to get it off the ground and adjust the forks? They were tightened into the lower clamp when I got them, so I just assumed they were in the correct position.

The clips don't do anything so don't worry about them. The bars can't slip down the tube unless they're so loose you'd be struggling to even hang on :-)
I explained earlier how to set the clamps up so there's no reason for them to be above the clamp unless you wanted them there. The top of the _tube_ should be flush with the top clamp as the stock position (and assuming the top clamp is in the designed position). The fork cap should be above the clamp. Higher or lower is not wrong and is entirely your own preference. It has the same effect as winding in more or less preload.

Nates01929 · 06-01-2009, 1:29 AM

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The clips don't do anything so don't worry about them. The bars can't slip down the tube unless they're so loose you'd be struggling to even hang on :-)
I explained earlier how to set the clamps up so there's no reason for them to be above the clamp unless you wanted them there. The top of the _tube_ should be flush with the top clamp as the stock position (and assuming the top clamp is in the designed position). The fork cap should be above the clamp. Higher or lower is not wrong and is entirely your own preference. It has the same effect as winding in more or less preload.

Ok, I think I'm ok then, the forks were already tight in the lower clamp when I received them so I just figured I wouldn't mess with loosening them up, everything went smooth though. Thank you very much for your help!