[adudenamedsteve]

As i was reading other stories pondering if i should share mine or not i found an amazing quote by Blizzneck. "GOD forbid. Don't ride faster than your Guardian Angel can fly!" Im glad i wasnt

As residents of north Florida myself and three best friends were making a ride to Bainbridge Georgia's Bike Fest in mid September. We never made it. Without any memory of the day.. besides the ride before the accident.. I am sharing what has been told to me from my friends.

There were four of us making the trip, taking the back roads enjoying the ride north toward georgia. Always allowing aduquite spacing I was the third in line going through a hard/blind left curve.

One of my best friends and latest to get a bike, was a little throttle happy from the start of the day. He lost control ran off the road into the ditch.

The second in line on a r6 immediately hit the breaks to stop in the middle of the road and help him. Im sure he never thought of what was coming next. As i made my way around the turn i was told by the guy behind myself that i struck the back of bike two at about 65 mph and flew right over him flipping through the air landing about 40-50 feet down the road directly on my face and shoulder.


(while i was out of it)

The last guy in line(4th rider) tells me he witnessed it all. After i flew over number two and landed on my face and shoulder first he thought i was gone. Unconscious for sevral moments he did not even want to walk near me. The the police arrived about the time i stood up only fall and be caught by the paramedics. The officer seeing this decided i was under the influence of alcohol or drugs. I WAS SOBER AS CAN BE! Just not coherent.

An officer of law that needs to loose his badge for being so quick the judge. Did he not see the rash on my helmet? it basically had asphalt in it.
I wish i remembered him!!!!!! I would give him a few words!

Suffering a left collar bone broken in 2 places and a severe concussion its no wonder i do not remember anything.

Other bikers:
1st broken arm in 3 places
2nd is fine
myself and nightmare! awaiting surgery
4th, not involved in a collision and saved us all

at the hospital: I was supposedly asked to give a blood dui test and refused. I remember nothing. I do not remember even seeing a cop, the ambulance ride or even my family and girlfriends by my side for the hours i was in the hospital

My next memory is being in Jail. Not knowing why only wearing a hospital gown and no shoes and being pissed about a DUI refusal when asking the cop why im here. This is where my memory becomes hazy but i begin to have some recolection.


Court yesterday..
I was horrified i was going to get a DUI for being innocent sober and unconscious.

Luckily my lawyer(public defender) rides bikes and took my side to fight the case.
The DUI was thrown out.
Only to pay $1,130 in ****ing fines and a ticket for wreckless driving.
I do not believe it was myslef. it would have never happened if it werent for the two in front of my.

The damage to my 06 cbr1000rr
13 parts on the front end.. forks to the tires, headlights rims calipers fairings radiator and headers.

Thank God for our guardian angels!! Thank God I am alive!

I will try to post some pictures by this weekend.

[sheepofblue]

Glad you are OK but let me correct your story a bit.

65MPH is 95.3 feet/s so you will travel 40 feet in about .42 seconds so for you to get tossed that far you would have had to start 13.4 feet up (you didn't). So you end 40-50feet down the road which makes more sense. You were also doing 65MPH on a back road which is likely speeding. You were also following to close to the person in front of you since you HIT him. Sounds a bit reckless. Sure the DUI was wrong but the rest you earned so quit whining, learn from your mistakes and be thankful it was not worse for you or the FRIEND YOU HURT.

Feel free to flame as I am harsh on stupid (I did far worse and deserved the agony I got) and wool is fire retardent.

[ucfmotorcycle1]

Why refuse the test? Its pretty standard for any cop to suspect DUI in a collision.
When you sign for your drivers license you agree to submit to a sobriety test, to refuse one makes you a candidate for license suspension.
In any case glad you made it out ok.

[.OrgOwner]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

. You were also following to close to the person in front of you since you HIT him. Sounds a bit reckless.

Sheep your a hard man Anyway to me it sounds like the guy he hit was stopped and it was a blind corner if that is the case there should have been more than safe distance between riders.. not sure how that is going to read but if he rear ended him at full speed and the other guy was at a stop then no amount of buffer will prevent a crash.

[adudenamedsteve]

I was not aware i refused the dui test.. i was out of it still. My girl tells me i was trying to talk but nothing was making sense.

[.OrgOwner]

That is probably due to shock, I hit another rider at speed years ago on a trail and woke up on the ground a long way from my bike. It takes a while to recover. I'm sure slickwill would have some knowledge on what happens to your brain when you go into shock.

[ucfmotorcycle1]

From what I understand is you have to actually refuse the sobriety test. If you are incoherent they will go ahead and test you. Not judging you at all. Just saying you could have saved alot of asspain if you let them do a sobriety test.

[adudenamedsteve]

Originally Posted by ucfmotorcycle1

From what I understand is you have to actually refuse the sobriety test. If you are incoherent they will go ahead and test you. Not judging you at all. Just saying you could have saved alot of asspain if you let them do a sobriety test.

if i actually knew what they wanted i would of let them

[Surffrog]

I broke my collar bone in two places. I know it really hurts. You have my sympathy for that. In fact, I've got to go for a second op to put a plate in. Take my advice, don't go for the single screw option, you will end up popping the thread. It's really easy to do.

I've got to say, though, why the hell did your friend (bike no2) not pull right over? Even on an open, straight bit of road, when I've stopped to assist other riders who've crashed, the first thing I do is make sure I'm not going to be the cause of another accident.

Think I agree with Sheep. No matter how fast or slow you were going, if your heading into a blind bend it makes sense to back right off.

[1morebike.com]

wow, glad you made it ok.

I used to play hockey, and I got two concussions when I was younger. My latests at 18 was wicked. I don't remember really anything prior to getting hit, and I don't remember most of the day. While I was still in a daze, someone could have asked me if it would be cool to slip $100 bill in my pocket..and I probably would have told them to piss off... Immediately after a hit like what you suffered, I'm pretty sure your legally not liable for certain actions

anyways, again, glad you made it thru.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by .OrgOwner

Sheep your a hard man Anyway to me it sounds like the guy he hit was stopped and it was a blind corner if that is the case there should have been more than safe distance between riders.. not sure how that is going to read but if he rear ended him at full speed and the other guy was at a stop then no amount of buffer will prevent a crash.

Yep. I have done my share of stupid plus 10 other sheeps however I never claimed it was anything else nor that anyone else was to blame. This is part of why I don't ride with others very often (then am VERY selective on who it is) If it had been a deer standing in the road the result is the same. He was riding to fast for the conditions. That is not something we have not all done but after doing it I never blamed everyone but the one responsible (ME) If I ever do pile on me and tell me I am being a whiner because I have it coming. Learning from my mistakes or that of others never involves blaming those not at fault. His buddy probably should not have stopped yet he was able to do so without crashing yet #3 could not stop, indicating he was to close. Riding that hard close is risky enough at the track but on the road it is ....... wait for it....... reckless. Thus the ticket was justified.

[adudenamedsteve]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Yep. I have done my share of stupid plus 10 other sheeps however I never claimed it was anything else nor that anyone else was to blame. This is part of why I don't ride with others very often (then am VERY selective on who it is) If it had been a deer standing in the road the result is the same. He was riding to fast for the conditions. That is not something we have not all done but after doing it I never blamed everyone but the one responsible (ME) If I ever do pile on me and tell me I am being a whiner because I have it coming. Learning from my mistakes or that of others never involves blaming those not at fault. His buddy probably should not have stopped yet he was able to do so without crashing yet #3 could not stop, indicating he was to close. Riding that hard close is risky enough at the track but on the road it is ....... wait for it....... reckless. Thus the ticket was justified.

The real problem being I was not following closely, from what i have been told by # 4 is that we were spread out fine. The turn was hard and blind being a forest road. I am aware we should not have been doing the speed we were. I believe if i were closer i would have been able to see and stop with #2. I may have been a lot more lucky if i were beside him........ wait for it..... i know.... still reckless.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by adudenamedsteve

The real problem being I was not following closely, from what i have been told by # 4 is that we were spread out fine. The turn was hard and blind being a forest road. I am aware we should not have been doing the speed we were. I believe if i were closer i would have been able to see and stop with #2. I may have been a lot more lucky if i were beside him........ wait for it..... i know.... still reckless.

LOL but I am glad you guys are all healing up and make sure you don't repeat.

[Doomwitha929]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Glad you are OK but let me correct your story a bit.

65MPH is 95.3 feet/s so you will travel 40 feet in about .42 seconds so for you to get tossed that far you would have had to start 13.4 feet up (you didn't). So you end 40-50feet down the road which makes more sense. You were also doing 65MPH on a back road which is likely speeding. You were also following to close to the person in front of you since you HIT him. Sounds a bit reckless. Sure the DUI was wrong but the rest you earned so quit whining, learn from your mistakes and be thankful it was not worse for you or the FRIEND YOU HURT.

Feel free to flame as I am harsh on stupid (I did far worse and deserved the agony I got) and wool is fire retardent.

A the guy ran into the back of a bike at 65mph and you are actually correcting his math? GOLD STAR! good job thread nazi.
B it is very likely he was 13+ feet in the air once he hit that bike. A buddy of mine had a truck knocked in front of his bike at about 60mph and the girl on the back "was shot over 30some feet straight through the air like a bullet" if you believe the people who saw it happen.
C Obviously he was not following too close to the person in front of him if the guy had time to stop and dismount before he came around the turn. More like the guy did not have enough time to miss the bike as he came around the turn and saw it. If it was a hard turn it could have been as little as a fraction of a second between the time he saw the bike and reached it. By your won calculation if he was doing 65mph he would only have had .42 seconds if it was a WHOLE 40 feet away.
Get off his back for speeding. There isn't a one of us that does exactly the speed limit every time we are riding so don't be so righteous.
Feel free to flame as I am harsh on people who are overly critical and righteous at totally inappropriate times.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by Doomwitha929

A the guy ran into the back of a bike at 65mph and you are actually correcting his math? GOLD STAR! good job thread nazi.
B it is very likely he was 13+ feet in the air once he hit that bike. A buddy of mine had a truck knocked in front of his bike at about 60mph and the girl on the back "was shot over 30some feet straight through the air like a bullet" if you believe the people who saw it happen.
C Obviously he was not following too close to the person in front of him if the guy had time to stop and dismount before he came around the turn. More like the guy did not have enough time to miss the bike as he came around the turn and saw it. If it was a hard turn it could have been as little as a fraction of a second between the time he saw the bike and reached it. By your won calculation if he was doing 65mph he would only have had .42 seconds if it was a WHOLE 40 feet away.
Get off his back for speeding. There isn't a one of us that does exactly the speed limit every time we are riding so don't be so righteous.
Feel free to flame as I am harsh on people who are overly critical and righteous at totally inappropriate times.

Never claimed to be perfect as I have stated that I performed my share of stupid (plus that of ten other sheep). Rather I was pointing out some of the misconceptions and that he should claim the errors that were his (otherwise nothing is learned from the pain) As to your observers nope I don't believe them as most people suck at such estimates and pull such numbers out of their backside. Couple that with worry for another human and adrenaline and it gets weak FAST. Add in a little exageration for good story telling also . Ever notice how many people say how fast someone was going and it is always 100? 30 feet through the air or into the air? Big difference but the net distance is still a ballistic arc once the impulse is applied and that is always height times gravity for time.

As to inappropriate the BEST time to learn from your mistakes is right after them (I know as I have made my share +) To squander that opportunity is to make the pain and carnage of machinery a waste. Flame away as that will not change my opinion nor attitude. If you have hard facts/numbers to contribute (like the 40 feet) it might but flaming for reaction