[Lucky_954]

Yip my bike unfortunately has the H.I.S.S system . Is there any possible way of getting around the system??

[Lucky_954]

Hey Twincam. any advise when it comes to rebuilding the sub-assebly would be apprciated especially the what not to do's.

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by Lucky_954

Yip my bike unfortunately has the H.I.S.S system . Is there any possible way of getting around the system??

There has been some people on here trying to by-pass the system, but as yet im not sure if they ever managed to. You basically need the key, without that you are snookered.

If the key is a no-go, you will have to spend money (& time) on changing the ECU etc (a complete lock set + ECU + chips cost about £500 second hand in the UK)

Here is a set for a 600RR7 so you know what you will have to basically purchase if you cant get hold of the key ( Item # 380029230284) - good luck

[Lucky_954]

Thanks Twin

[bettingpython]

Up to 4 keys can be programmed into the 954 ECU. Get a Haynes manual it has the key programming procedure, you can then buy a key and have it cut to your ignition and program it in. I would get the key cut to the lockset first before programming.

I don't even live in a country which has H.I.S.S. equipped bikes and I know this. C'mon guys get it together.

[Gregory Waters]

Yeah but you always gotta have money to make money thats for sure.

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by bettingpython

Up to 4 keys can be programmed into the 954 ECU. Get a Haynes manual it has the key programming procedure, you can then buy a key and have it cut to your ignition and program it in. I would get the key cut to the lockset first before programming.

I don't even live in a country which has H.I.S.S. equipped bikes and I know this. C'mon guys get it together.

Wow, I've never known that - I learn something new everyday.

I was told that I've needed to have an existing key which is already programed before I can program a new key, your the first to tell me different. No one has ever told me different apart from you.

[bettingpython]

I'll go look but I don't think you need one of the already programmed keys according to the manual, like I said I read it once but don't remember everything I read especially if it's not pertinent to my bikes.

[bjay51d]

sorry to sound like a bitch...but,if youre in the process of buying a house.Thats kinda wild that you would get a bike while she saving her pennies

[RACR721]

WELL LET ME REFRAZE IM BUYING THE HOUSE FOR US, GRANTED SHE HELPED ALITTLE BUT IM THE ONE FORKN OVER THE 30 THOW FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT

[RACR721]

and you dont sound like a bitch

[bjay51d]

Originally Posted by RACR721

WELL LET ME REFRAZE IM BUYING THE HOUSE FOR US, GRANTED SHE HELPED ALITTLE BUT IM THE ONE FORKN OVER THE 30 THOW FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT

30k pretty much gives you a free pass to tell her to STFU...I would be like*honey look what i just picked up*

[RACR721]

your pickn up what im puttn down there partner .......thats a big STFU GOT IT ON CUMMON!

[macca9540]

Originally Posted by bettingpython

Up to 4 keys can be programmed into the 954 ECU. Get a Haynes manual it has the key programming procedure, you can then buy a key and have it cut to your ignition and program it in. I would get the key cut to the lockset first before programming.

I don't even live in a country which has H.I.S.S. equipped bikes and I know this. C'mon guys get it together.

You're right about the 4 key's but they have to be programed off 1 of the original keys for that ecu and hiss system other wise it will not work. What is the point of having the hiss system if all you have to do is get a key cut and reprogram it. If you don't have an original key for that ecu then you will have to buy a new set.

[CBR_954_RR]

Shouldnt you be able to go to a Honda dealer with the bikes VIN and have them look up the key codes and then cut/program a new one with the same codes?? I know its not a bike...but i had to do that right after I bought my corvette. I lost the only key I had for it, so i went to the dealer, and they used the VIN to cut and program a new key...but idk...never even seen a bike with the HISS.

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by CBR_954_RR

Shouldnt you be able to go to a Honda dealer with the bikes VIN and have them look up the key codes and then cut/program a new one with the same codes??

Thats what I originally thought when I purchased my Hornet, I bought it salvage cat D and was not issued with either the alarm fob or the key. At that time I didnt know what HISS was or anything about it, so off I went to both my Local Motorbike Shop and then to the Dealer, both quoted me £1000+ for a lovely new ECU and lock set. You can imagine what I said to them.

You would have thought they would have made it like cars, if I lost my keys for any of my cars, all I need is the V5/Logbook, some cash and some identity and I can get a key cut - Hondas are slightly Different. You can get the key cut, but you cannot get it coded unless you have an original key (99% have told me this - even my dealer :S)

[Lucky_954]

That's the same problem I'm sitting with. The dealer won't give me the codes for my key, he wants to sell me a lock set. If you look at the current exchange rate you wil realise what that adds up to.

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by Lucky_954

That's the same problem I'm sitting with. The dealer won't give me the codes for my key, he wants to sell me a lock set. If you look at the current exchange rate you wil realise what that adds up to.

There is no point buying the Set and ECU from the dealers, you could probs find someone breaking a 954RR and buy it for half what the dealers are asking.

Also, im not sure if the dealer has your codes, no dealer i contacted were able to help me, they just told me to buy an ECU/locks set/chips etc.

Over here a new set is £1000, second hand i could have got one for £450. Thats a big gap for such a little thing.

[macca9540]

Originally Posted by Lucky_954

That's the same problem I'm sitting with. The dealer won't give me the codes for my key, he wants to sell me a lock set. If you look at the current exchange rate you wil realise what that adds up to.

EBAY, WRECKERS.

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by macca9540

Ebay, Wreckers. *

[bryce]

Originally Posted by Lucky_954

this is what your blade looks like if an OFFICER of th LAW decides to try and jump in front of you to stop you

ouch

[soupnazi]

Originally Posted by macca9540

What is the point of having the hiss system if all you have to do is get a key cut and reprogram it. If you don't have an original key for that ecu then you will have to buy a new set.

Per zachery.

I seem to recall people circumnavigating the HISS system by aquiring an ECU off a non-HISS equipped model. Well, they spoke about doing it but I didn't find out the result.

Technically there's no reason it wouldn't work though as the immobilising part is replaced with one which doesn't require the chip activation.

[bettingpython]

I can't believe no one here has gotten a haynes manual out and looked this up. I'll dig it out tomorrow.

The key cut code is on the side of the lock cylinder btw, your stealerships appear to be trying to take advantage of everyone if I am right.

Order the unprogrammed blank key and have a locksmith cut it for you thats the easiest thing, a competent locksmith can impression a key by putting the blank in wiggling it then manually filing the cuts, I had it done on my old shadow once.

[bettingpython]

OK just got the manual out, yes you do need an already registered key for an existing ECM sorry. But you can replace the ECM with a brand new one have a couple of transponder keys cut to your original lockset and program a brand new ECM from scratch. No reason to buy and replace an entire lockset and risk getting a bad part off of e-bay.

The ECM will handle up to 4 keys. The EPROM used to store the key codes in the ECM unit is not a reprogramable model, I bet a competent EE could desolder the surface mount EPROM and solder in a new one Thus returning the ECM into an original unprogrammed unit.

Too bad I don't have the capability of getting my hands on a eurospec unit, its probably just a matter of a small jumper to disable the HISS once inside the ECM.

Sorry I was wrong.

[Gregory Waters]

nice

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by bettingpython

Sorry I was wrong.

Don't worry about it, better to post than not to

I should say from what you quoted that the sensors and lockset are interchangeable as long as you have a matching ECU and Chip.

[bettingpython]

Yep as long as you have the keys to match the ECU you can swap that other stuff around.

Theres a special honda harness tool needed to program keys or you can make it.

If you don't have a service Manual get one. I don't know about the OEM manual but this is covered by the Haynes Manual.

[Gregory Waters]

cant beat that deal definitly cant pass that kind of thing up if you can afford to.

[SynisterRC]

I love the tittle of this thread!!! I feel you on the house downpayment thing. I had to buy my GF a condo,boobs and two chihuahua's so she would shut the hell up.... After spending too much $$$ on her, I can now get my 954RR....

[marc_padin]

Originally Posted by SynisterRC

I love the tittle of this thread!!! I feel you on the house downpayment thing. I had to buy my GF a condo,boobs and two chihuahua's so she would shut the hell up.... After spending too much $$$ on her, I can now get my 954RR....

Jee, sounds like a high maintenance girl you got there... My wife was happy with rescuing 1 dog!