How close to the '04 R1 is THIS?

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 8:59 AM

The class of '04 is going to be good. Real good.
CBR1000RR
YZF-R1
GSX-R1000
ZX10RR (did I get that name right?)

(Odd. Couldn't post a pic. How about a link instead?)
Look HERE

Kookie · 08-07-2003, 9:41 AM

It looks like a copycat to the 600RR to me, except they made the tailsection too large. I prefer the current bodystyle over that one - but that doesnt say much either.

Mattress · 08-07-2003, 9:44 AM

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googolplexu : It looks like a copycat to the 600RR to me, except they made the tailsection too large. *I prefer the current bodystyle over that one - but that doesnt say much either. *

Honda with Yamaha paint...in that case it should be awesome

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 9:56 AM

Rumor had it Yamaha was going to add Ram Air (okay, 'cold air') induction. Other than the more fluid swingarm (VERY similar to the R6 unit), the only other obvious changes are to the tailsection plastic. IMHO, the depicted tailsection looks better than the current one, which I always found too angular and 'Jetsons'-looking.

I like the thought of an underseat exhaust, and I imagine Yamaha has worked to increase the power a bit, as the main complaint with the '02/'03 R1 is that it's down a bit (power-wise) next to the big Gixxer. Brakes and handling were fine before, as was the fuel injection (amazing they got it spot-on with the first attempt&#33, so I don't expect changes there.

The one thing (besides the tailsection styling) that I think they should seriously look at is the underseat storage! My '02 had just about enough room for a pair of gloves and a sleeve of paperwork!

Skully · 08-07-2003, 10:07 AM

Taz after you buy and trade all 4 within 6 months let us know how they compare.

SoCalRider · 08-07-2003, 10:44 AM

I've never owned a Yamaha. This maybe the one. Honda or Yamaha, whoever offers it in RED!

SuperDave · 08-07-2003, 10:48 AM

I like it! You're right '04 will be an exciting year for the big boys!

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 10:50 AM

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Skully : Taz after you buy and trade all 4 within 6 months let us know how they compare. *

Hmmm. Now THAT's a thought!

You could probably leave the Suzuki and the Kawasaki out of the equation. Although I'm sure both are excellent bikes, something in me knows it's not in me to actually OWN one.

It's doubtful I'll be in a position to buy anything next spring. Although I'd like to, my long-term plan for muh-self is to get a big, comfy (sport?)touring bike for the real world, and a 600 for the track. Oh, yeah...also to lose 20 pounds so I don't bog down that 600!

ND4SPD · 08-07-2003, 10:52 AM

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Mattress : Quote (googolplexu @ Aug. 07 2003, 1:41am) It looks like a copycat to the 600RR to me, except they made the tailsection too large. *I prefer the current bodystyle over that one - but that doesnt say much either. *

Honda with Yamaha paint...in that case it should be awesome
The cowl looks Hayabusa-ish

Either way, it's ugly

deez · 08-07-2003, 11:08 AM

Taz when it comes out, go down to your local stealership, stick your dick in the exhaust, hump it, and get it over with. *Because I sure don't want to hear your pining over this vs. that for the next 6 months. * * *

asiliat · 08-07-2003, 11:21 AM

what's with the fairing bolts. Either they're poorly safety wired, or they look like D-ring clips or whatever.

Yellar · 08-07-2003, 11:24 AM

I like it! Does the '03 come with stock frame sliders and quick release fastners like this one? Also, is that the oil bolt I see on the bottom left? Either way, those are nice stock options.

Holeshot · 08-07-2003, 11:57 AM

Yeah, they photochopped on some dzus 1/4 turns on that thing. If that made production, that would be pretty cool.

Now if only Honda would do that, or at least make it easier to do that (and not recess some of the bolts so a d-right would not fit).

Sort of looks like a cross between an F4i and the 600RR in Yamadog paint.

2004 will be a VERY interesting year. Almost makes me want to sell some stuff and buy a ticket to Europe for next month's bike intros!!!

luvtolean · 08-07-2003, 12:00 PM

Looks almost as as the red/white/black 02 did.

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 12:34 PM

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booth23 : Taz when it comes out, go down to your local stealership, stick your dick in the exhaust, hump it, and get it over with. *Because I sure don't want to hear your pining over this vs. that for the next 6 months. * * *

Now THAT's not very nice! If you don't want to 'hear' any of my posts, I'd invite you to NOT read them. (Or plug your ears...?)

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 12:37 PM

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Yellar : I like it! Does the '03 come with stock frame sliders and quick release fastners like this one? Also, is that the oil bolt I see on the bottom left? Either way, those are nice stock options.

The '03 has no stock frame sliders, but does have Allen-keyed 1/4 Dzus fasteners. I suspect the pictured D-ring (also Dzus?) fasteners may actually come as stock on the '04.

That's part of the exhaust valve, not the oil drain bolt.

BladeRider · 08-07-2003, 12:42 PM

If that is the bike I think the front looks like those big ugly air intakes look like an after thought.

tnarinen · 08-07-2003, 1:48 PM

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TAZ : Rumor had it Yamaha was going to add Ram Air (okay, 'cold air') induction. Other than the more fluid swingarm (VERY similar to the R6 unit), the only other obvious changes are to the tailsection plastic. IMHO, the depicted tailsection looks better than the current one, which I always found too angular and 'Jetsons'-looking.

That is the fugliest RAM-air I've seen to date. And as for looks, it is truly a CBR 600RR copy.

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I like the thought of an underseat exhaust, and I imagine Yamaha has worked to increase the power a bit, as the main complaint with the '02/'03 R1 is that it's down a bit (power-wise) next to the big Gixxer. Brakes and handling were fine before, as was the fuel injection (amazing they got it spot-on with the first attempt&#33, so I don't expect changes there.
You may be correct about fuel injection and handling, but I haven't heard anyone saying that brakes are fine, at least at 03 they are 'worst in class' now that the Gix has radials. So if 04 R1 will have same brakes the 'worst in class' prize is quaranteed for 04. With some trying maybe they'll get that prize for other categories too *

showmethebombs · 08-07-2003, 1:49 PM

we'll see.

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 1:55 PM

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tnarinen : You may be correct about fuel injection and handling, but I haven't heard anyone saying that brakes are fine, at least at 03 they are 'worst in class' now that the Gix has radials. So if 04 R1 will have same brakes the 'worst in class' prize is quaranteed for 04. With some trying maybe they'll get that prize for other categories too *

Radial brakes don't necessarily equate to 'better brakes'.
The Gixxer's and 954's brakes MAY be better than the Yamaha's, but only MARGINALLY. And hey - isn't the ZX9R still 'in class'

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 2:00 PM

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tnarinen : And as for looks, it is truly a CBR 600RR copy.

I do see some of the same cues (hey, didn't the 600RR copy the R1's dual-headlight 'cat eye' look)? Was the 600RR the first bike to use an undertail exhaust configuration? (Hint: no)

Now if only the 600RR had about 50 more ponies...

BizJetGuy · 08-07-2003, 2:00 PM

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tnarinen : Quote (TAZ @ Aug. 07 2003, 9:56am)Rumor had it Yamaha was going to add Ram Air (okay, 'cold air') induction. Other than the more fluid swingarm (VERY similar to the R6 unit), the only other obvious changes are to the tailsection plastic. IMHO, the depicted tailsection looks better than the current one, which I always found too angular and 'Jetsons'-looking.

That is the fugliest RAM-air I've seen to date. And as for looks, it is truly a CBR 600RR copy.

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I like the thought of an underseat exhaust, and I imagine Yamaha has worked to increase the power a bit, as the main complaint with the '02/'03 R1 is that it's down a bit (power-wise) next to the big Gixxer. Brakes and handling were fine before, as was the fuel injection (amazing they got it spot-on with the first attempt&#33, so I don't expect changes there.
You may be correct about fuel injection and handling, but I haven't heard anyone saying that brakes are fine, at least at 03 they are 'worst in class' now that the Gix has radials. So if 04 R1 will have same brakes the 'worst in class' prize is quaranteed for 04. With some trying maybe they'll get that prize for other categories too *
Thread Hijack - tnarinen, where in Finland are you located? I have a good friend from Oulu.

tnarinen · 08-07-2003, 3:25 PM

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TAZ : Quote (tnarinen @ Aug. 07 2003, 1:48pm)You may be correct about fuel injection and handling, but I haven't heard anyone saying that brakes are fine, at least at 03 they are 'worst in class' now that the Gix has radials. So if 04 R1 will have same brakes the 'worst in class' prize is quaranteed for 04. With some trying maybe they'll get that prize for other categories too *

Radial brakes don't necessarily equate to 'better brakes'.
The Gixxer's and 954's brakes MAY be better than the Yamaha's, but only MARGINALLY. And hey - isn't the ZX9R still 'in class'
ZX9R 'in class', maybe yes, though many mags have even dropped it from Open Class shootouts since its so 'outdated'.
As for brakes, I very well know they're only marginally worse, but as it is nowadays, if you're last one in something what you've got is

Yammie engineers are fools if they don't 'fix' the brakes, but so are Honda if they release another litrebike without Ram-Air. We can't yet be sure that 1000RR will have one...

tnarinen · 08-07-2003, 3:30 PM

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BizJetGuy : Thread Hijack - tnarinen, where in Finland are you located? *I have a good friend from Oulu.

Espoo, next to capital Helsinki in the south shore. Oulu is one of better cities farther north, kinda like technology centre of northern Finalnd.

BDA116 · 08-07-2003, 3:34 PM

Am I the only one that finds the timing of this thread amusing?
Pete? Biz? Bacchus? Anyone?
I guess I'll just be amused by myself.

luvtolean · 08-07-2003, 3:37 PM

I went to Oulu (and Helsinki) last summer on a business trip. *There was still light after midnight, and the aurora borealis was bright! *When I got to my hotel I looked at a map as it had never dawned on me how close I was to the arctic circle. *

Beautiful country. I love the Scandanavian style, and much of the food.

TAZ · 08-07-2003, 3:38 PM

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BDA116 : Am I the only one that finds the timing of this thread amusing?
Pete? Biz? Bacchus? Anyone?
I guess I'll just be amused by myself.

And you find it amusing because...???