R6 drifting

doct0rxnick · 01-07-2006, 3:18 AM

yesterday I took a spin on my brother's 05 R6.

Now I've been riding the 954 for quite sometime, which has much more power than the R6, but this has never happened to me! I'm headed into a 90-degree right hander at about 20mph, it has a long straight after it, so I get on the throttle about the peak of the turn. Next thing I know, the back end is sliding out to my left. Fortunately it corrected promptly, but it was enough to send my balls up into my stomach.

I tried it again at a lower speed and in first gear and I got the bike to respond similarly, but in a more controlled fashion. Now I've only ridden an sv650s, a cbr600rr, and my 954 and this reaction didn't seem characteristic of any of those bikes. What is going on here?

Is it:
A) That the tires were a little cold
B) Perhaps the concrete on these roads was extra smooth
C) The rear tire has a smaller contact patch than that of the litre bikes
D) A combination of the above
E) Other

The bike had about a 2 minute ride before the first loss of traction and the temperature was about 60 F. Though I can't recall at this moment, the road may have been asphault?

My brother mentioned that he has felt like the rear is going to come out before, but I don't think he really pushes it much, seeing as he just started riding. I told him to take it extra slow in the corners to avoid any accident like this, but I'd really like to know what it is that causes this on a 600 and not a litre bike. thanks!

jaim · 01-07-2006, 3:30 AM

What type of tires are on the R6 and how old are they? Also what tire pressure were you running in them?

doct0rxnick · 01-07-2006, 3:43 AM

not certain the pressure. Factory tires from new, about 2500 miles

Red Rider · 01-07-2006, 7:34 AM

Probably a combination of tire condition, pressure, and temperature...

LUCIDDREAM57 · 01-07-2006, 7:40 AM

HMM, i would think that your 954 under the same conditions would've responded similarly....

Mojave954 · 01-07-2006, 10:35 AM

Called POWER,

Go YAMAHA!!!!!!!

Actuallly,

. Try it on the 'fiddyfour. Just be careful, lot more torque.

sheepofblue · 01-07-2006, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Rider

Probably a combination of tire condition, pressure, and temperature...

Of course and RC would have buckled the pavement

luvtolean · 01-07-2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

Of course and RC would have buckled the pavement

Well, it is a heavy bike.

sheepofblue · 01-07-2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvtolean

Well, it is a heavy bike.

You don't sleep with it you ride it. Then it is about the torque

seamus · 01-07-2006, 1:41 PM

I've McCoy'd the RR a few times on cold tires. First time, I thought I had hit an oil patch on the road.

doct0rxnick · 01-09-2006, 1:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojave954

Called POWER,

Go YAMAHA!!!!!!!

Actuallly,

. Try it on the 'fiddyfour. Just be careful, lot more torque.

I don't want to try that again, man. I couldn't really say that I had control at that point. When you're heading into a turn on someone else's bike, you don't really want to start seeing the ass end of it out of the corner of your eye. I exaggerate, of course, but that **** scared me!

Pulski · 01-09-2006, 11:38 AM

I've had the 929 drift out on me like that before due to cold tires, but by 2 minutes in, you should've been mostly ok.

My vote is that they probably have too much air in them (read: smaller contact patch) and are a type that takes a long while to warm up. The pressures stamped on the bike are generally higher than what most people should actually run.