06 R6 NOT very impressive--LTL take a Look BEFORE you take Delivery

Trackho · 01-19-2006, 12:44 PM

http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99693&perpage=20&pagenu mber=1

I like the part about racing an 06 R6 vs a SS legal 05 R6 and getting STOMPED--not to mention the 17.5K is a flat out LIE

phobiaphobe · 01-19-2006, 12:50 PM

Not very nice dyno plot... 20 horse down on the '05 at 10kRPM with only a 4hp advantage on top.

Torque sucks.

Heavy-Dee · 01-19-2006, 1:01 PM

Still it's a SS built motory vs a "built for the masses" stock motor. Apples to Oranges.

CBRVFR · 01-19-2006, 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

Still it's a SS built motory vs a "built for the masses" stock motor. Chuck Norris to Michael Dukakis.

Fixed that for ya.

phobiaphobe · 01-19-2006, 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

Still it's a SS built motory vs a "built for the masses" stock motor. Apples to Oranges.

I was referring to the second set of graphs where it's run against a bone-stock '05.

You are right the comparison against the SS built '05 is unfair and irrelevant.

phobiaphobe · 01-19-2006, 1:17 PM

Chuck Norris Could easily get it to rev to 17500.

Heavy-Dee · 01-19-2006, 1:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Chuck Norris Could easily get it to rev to 17500.

Well yea. His roundhouse kicks are 17,500 rpm.

HD

RRWANTR · 01-19-2006, 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

Still it's a SS built motory vs a "built for the masses" stock motor. Apples to Oranges.

The 2nd graph is a 05 bone stock R6 on top of the 06 R6.

luvtolean · 01-19-2006, 2:02 PM

I don't really see anything there that isn't already out in the masses.

The motor will need tuning, the chassis is the bomb, and the whole thing is light.

I think for someone with at least some plans of modding, the R6 will be the best platform. But it's going to take money to get there.

I have had fitful thoughts of just picking up a wrecked bike, which with another $6-7k in wheels/suspension/motor (to bring it up to the $10k of the R6) I could build a killer 600, but still am not convinced this is the best way...so far I plan to stay with the R6.

Rambling a bit now...open to comments from the peanut gallery.

phobiaphobe · 01-19-2006, 2:07 PM

It's definitely gonna kick ass with a couple grand sunk into it but Yamaha are still ****ers for the false advertising and pants-on-fire tach. The friggin thing is reading 18K at the 16200 fuel cut off.

BDA116 · 01-19-2006, 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

...I have had fitful thoughts of just picking up a wrecked bike, which with another $6-7k in wheels/suspension/motor (to bring it up to the $10k of the R6) I could build a killer 600, but still am not convinced this is the best way...so far I plan to stay with the R6.....

I like this approach myself. It's looking like it will be ~$5K with what I'm planning. And you know the price of my bike.

To be on the uber-competitive edge, I still think the 06R6 will be the best platform, but you'll be ~$5-6K more into your bike when all is said and done.

Just had to keep the seeds of doubt going for you.

RRWANTR · 01-19-2006, 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

I like this approach myself. It's looking like it will be ~$5K with what I'm planning. And you know the price of my bike.

To be on the uber-competitive edge, I still think the 06R6 will be the best platform, but you'll be ~$5-6K more into your bike when all is said and done.

Just had to keep the seeds of doubt going for you.

Sooo...where's the details on this 05 of yours?

BDA116 · 01-19-2006, 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RRWANTR

Sooo...where's the details on this 05 of yours?

I mentioned it in this thread: http://www.fireblades.org/forums/cbr...ght=track+bike
But it is still waiting for a ForwardAir crate and won't be here for another week and a half or so.

luvtolean · 01-19-2006, 3:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RRWANTR

Sooo...where's the details on this 05 of yours?

But I can tell you anything you want to know about it.

BDA, jeez man, you should be nice to me.

oldgoat · 01-19-2006, 4:32 PM

Exhaust ,Pc111, and some dyno work should add some HP. But, your sure going to have to keep it singin. My first thought is with all the high RPM's to stay at max power, how long is the motor going to live.

i still want one though

SomeStrangeGuy · 01-19-2006, 8:26 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Rambling a bit now...open to comments from the peanut gallery.

Non racer perspective only mind ya:
You're spending double the $$ to wring the piss out of a first year new production model that so far appears to have been left very 'safe' in terms of power margins, out of the box. The traditional pacific-drift in terms of specs and actual HP numbers taken into account. It just seems suspect that they designed a serious race purpose bike then only gave it 1 nut. Not to mention (heaven forbid) you bin it and take off more then bodywork - you're parts stash will either be illegal or expensive - choose your poison.

On the flip - you'll have a blingin ride

. The R7 out of the box produces a wussly amount of hp, I think ~112 RWHP. With a GYT-r kit for it (harness and an afternoon of some changes) its ~135rwhp. With a few motor mods (heh) and a full out GYT-r kit for it, its somewhere in the 160rwhp range (and I think that's cutting it low). So it's quite possible Yam did the same thing for the box stock R6, maybe in the hopes stunnas won't like these R6's either

. Plus they seem to have done 'wire mods' with many of their machines that aren't public easter eggs until there's a few on the street already.

Last but not least, cash in hand I traded my honda in for a dirty yammie because they had more relevant experience making small form-factor engines that could rev to the moon all day every day and not require new valves every day to do it. I've since gotten back on the red bike because I'll be damned if I can use anywhere past 1/2 throttle anyways

ND4SPD · 01-19-2006, 10:59 PM

Yami dealer down the street has a yellow something sitting on the floor. Saw it driving by tonight. Gonna have to stop in and look

luvtolean · 01-20-2006, 2:37 PM

SSG, I have a fax in with Yamaha of America for GYT-r kit parts as we speak.

The pricing/availability I get back from them will definately effect my decision to take delivery.

Trackho · 01-20-2006, 3:50 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

SSG, I have a fax in with Yamaha of America for GYT-r kit parts as we speak.

The pricing/availability I get back from them will definately effect my decision to take delivery.

the $30K 06 R6

--dude find a SS prepped '05--Prolly $10K max pre built..After doing it once, I will NEVER convert another streetbike to racebike. I could buy a '04 HRC kitted (stage 1 and stage 2) 1000RR for $10K---thats less than an '06 streetbike

luvtolean · 01-20-2006, 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Trackho

the $30K 06 R6

--dude find a SS prepped '05--Prolly $10K max pre built..After doing it once, I will NEVER convert another streetbike to racebike. I could buy a '04 HRC kitted (stage 1 and stage 2) 1000RR for $10K---thats less than an '06 streetbike

You say that like it's the easiest thing to do.

It's not. I just spent the last hour on e-bay/craigslist/AFM/WERA and found basically nothing.

A really good 600 (or maybe 750) is not easy to find ready to build/ or go for reasonable money.

If you know someone, I'm all ears.

Tornado bait · 01-30-2006, 1:39 PM

Here is a quote from one of the regional suspension gurus that runs RPS.

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I spent some time going over the R-6 forks this last week and they are indeed about the best OEM forks I have ever seen. Th