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I have a 99 blade, and today on my way home, sounded and felt just like I had a dead cylinder. Checked spark plugs and coils, all have spark and work, all cylinders have compression, what else could it be???
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I have a 99 blade, and today on my way home, sounded and felt just like I had a dead cylinder. Checked spark plugs and coils, all have spark and work, all cylinders have compression, what else could it be???

All header pipes running at similar temps?
Checked the fuel pressure regulator vacuum hose?

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cant check the header temps, it wont fire at all now. i dont think carbed engines have fuel pressure regulators?
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cant check the header temps, it wont fire at all now. i dont think carbed engines have fuel pressure regulators?

Does it have spark still?
Oops, missed that :-)
Check the vacuum hose to the fuel tap is not sucking fuel.

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Does it have spark still?
Oops, missed that :-)
Check the vacuum hose to the fuel tap is not sucking fuel.
Already checked for spark and compression, both good. You mean the vaccumm hose from the petcock to the second cylinder?
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Already checked for spark and compression, both good. You mean the vaccumm hose from the petcock to the second cylinder?

That would be the one.

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That would be the one.
completely dry. the hose i circled in red, is that supposed to go anywhere? since i got the bike its just been hanging behind the frame, not connected to anything. could that have something to do with it? the other pics just a little eye candy for ya im not sure i like the streetfighter look tho
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That set of hoses is the carb vent. Vents to atmosphere, and will occasionally dump fuel if bowls are overfilled or carbs are flipped over while removing. Does not connect to anything.

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That set of hoses is the carb vent. Vents to atmosphere, and will occasionally dump fuel if bowls are overfilled or carbs are flipped over while removing. Does not connect to anything.
I saw a video on YouTube of a carb removal and the guy had to disconnect it from something. I checked the vaccumm line and it was dry, still have no idea what the problem is
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I saw a video on YouTube of a carb removal and the guy had to disconnect it from something. I checked the vaccumm line and it was dry, still have no idea what the problem is
Ok,'if you want to get technical then yes, the end of the hose sits in a small rounded steel hanger that should usually be attached the right frame rail, vented to atmosphere. The end of the hose is still open. Refer to bottom right of pic.


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Ok,'if you want to get technical then yes, the end of the hose sits in a small rounded steel hanger that should usually be attached the right frame rail, vented to atmosphere. The end of the hose is still open. Refer to bottom right of pic.

Hang on I'll find the link, it was definitely connected to something
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At 1:20 he disconnects it from something.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EslWVIOKZWg
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At 1:20 he disconnects it from something.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EslWVIOKZWg
Ahhhh, so he does. Pardon my initial sarcasm, California model additional pollution control hoses, etc. My 93 and 99 non Cali models both vent to atmosphere as shown in my photo. Being from PA I would imagine you don't have that extra junk either.

When you checked the vacuum hose from cylinder 2 to fuel valve, if you remove it from the valve and add vacuum, fuel should flow from tank to carbs. Did you verify that?

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Re: help!!!

Yes, fuel is getting to carbs. I think I had a clogged fuel line before the filter because I put it back together today and it started right up. Still definitely needs some work on the carbs tho, took it for a ride and it won't rev above 7k while At cruising speeds
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I saw a video on YouTube of a carb removal and the guy had to disconnect it from something. I checked the vaccumm line and it was dry, still have no idea what the problem is

Cali I think has to run the breathers into the airbox or cannister, but it doesn't do anything.
The vents do the same as your fuel tank vent, allow air in so the engine can draw fuel up the jets without creating vacuum in the float bowls.

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