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954rr or vtr 996?

I was going to be getting a new bike soon and was trying to decide between these two bikes, Ive always wanted a vtwin for that instant response, but the reliability of the 954 seems like its the better choice. I did a little research in the tct in the 996 being a issue as well as the regulator and a possible clutch problem? Seems like there isnt a single known issue with the 954. I would just get a rc51 but they are too expensive for me atm. Ive found a 996 with low miles for 2500 and a 954 with low miles for 3500. As far as my experience goes I had a f4i for a few years so this will be my first liter bike.
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Re: 954rr or vtr 996?

I had a 1999 VTR for a short time before buying an Aprilia RSV1000RF v-twin. The VTR for me was a trouble-free reliable bike. I was at the time a member on a VTR forum. You are correct in pinpointing a 'perceived' CCT problem, although we only hear of the bad cases on forums. For instance, of the thousands of VTRs sold, on a few mentions of problems on a forum doesn't necessarily mean it's an inherent problem with the model. We do not know how the bike has been treated and serviced. Same situation with regs and electrics.

The VTRs will always sell for less than the Blades because of their waning popularity. Whilst the VTRs are a nice bike, the SP 1 and 2 versions are the top of the crop with their gear driven cams. Their prices, however, are nearly prohibitive.

For all round reliability, fun, ease and cost of servicing, I'd go the Blade. I think the VTR would be a good 'second' bike.
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I was going to be getting a new bike soon and was trying to decide between these two bikes, Ive always wanted a vtwin for that instant response, but the reliability of the 954 seems like its the better choice. I did a little research in the tct in the 996 being a issue as well as the regulator and a possible clutch problem? Seems like there isnt a single known issue with the 954. I would just get a rc51 but they are too expensive for me atm. Ive found a 996 with low miles for 2500 and a 954 with low miles for 3500. As far as my experience goes I had a f4i for a few years so this will be my first liter bike.
I like the VTR for its uniqueness, and carbs. The 954 is no slouch, but its aging FI system, and aptness for cylinder scoring are pretty major issues. The electronics can be difficult, but not deal breaking. Check the inside of the tank for corrosion. The fuel pumps can rot out if its been sitting, which usually trips a no start condition. And the reg/rec charging issues are pretty much across all years and all models.

Good luck!
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Re: 954rr or vtr 996?

I’d agree with Ian the SP1 and SP2 would be my choice, more exotic, more interesting and probably a better long term investment (if that’s important)
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Re: 954rr or vtr 996?

I think we all, in some way, consider investment as part of our 'hobby'. Certainly from my perspective, I see that the appreciation on some of my bikes (VF and NS in particular) betters that offered by banks and pension funds. Take out insurance, tax and MoTs and we'd be lucky to break even. All mine get ridden, not often but enough to keep the cobwebs at bay. Speaking of cobwebs, you won't find any here:
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Are those bikes all stored in your kitchen? If so I presume you’re single


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Kitchen, lounge room, entry hall - anywhere they'll fit.

Yes, single. I wasn't compatible with marriage - or so I was told by the ex-wives (note plural)

More than happy now though. I manage to live with my idiosyncrasies.

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Re: 954rr or vtr 996?

thanks for all the comments, could yall check these listings out and give me any advice or opinions on these bikes? thanks again for all the info, comments

1.https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mc...851087409.html
2. https://waco.craigslist.org/mcy/d/sa...852243361.html
3. https://victoriatx.craigslist.org/mc...867173627.html
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Re: 954rr or vtr 996?

TBH all three just look a bit unloved and shabby, I’m sure there must be better out there.


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Re: 954rr or vtr 996?

Hi Billy, nice selection.

First impression is that the red VTR is the best looking. However, you might have a battle to obtain good fairings and then have to shell out on prep and paint which might set you back another grand.

CBR is a 20,000 miler, and whilst that's not a problem, compared to the black VTR at 16,000 miles it appears in tip top condition. I would buy either of those two but delete the red one.

It is always difficult for a third party to recommend a bike - especially when we're talking two vastly different options. Those of us who have been through this many times know that we buy with the heart and not the head. You might know what your preference is. Have a good check of the bike and then run with it. Whatever you buy, you're going to spend a bit on it anyway (personalisation mods/rear seat cowl, etc) so take that into account also. Best wishes on this. The only right decision is what feels right for you.
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I’ve owned both. The 954 is a better bike. You also could consider that era VFR800. The VTR just has lots of practical flaws, including poor range and is far less sporting. It’s fun, it’s just not great. My 954RR isnon ebay and is much nicer than this one for not much more money, FWIW
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Re: 954rr or vtr 996?

Im on a VTR1000f at the moment after selling my SC28 for a TRX850 (dont hate me), and having the t-rex wrecked for me.
They are a good bike but have some shite quirks; gauges that are hard to read (especially 2nd gen), horrendous mileage, CCT's that are waiting to let go, clunky gearbox, mushy brakes, hydraulic clutch that is sub par to most cable clutches and can get a bit "grabby" and try to throw you off the bike at random inopportune moments, and agricultural suspension. All of that can be remedied, ridden around or learned to love of course and they are a great bike if you can get em cheap. Mine was really clean, came with Wilbers suspension and a big box full of the oem parts that came off it and was dirt cheap.
The 954 is a better bike in every way. The rc51 is legendary but bears absolutely no relation to a superhawk, completely differnt bike from the ground up, and you will have to pay through the nose for a good one, money you could spend on something much more recent or exotic unless you were passionate.
As others have mentioned might even be worth adding VFR800 to the list.
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Im on a VTR1000f at the moment after selling my SC28 for a TRX850 (dont hate me), and having the t-rex wrecked for me.
They are a good bike but have some shite quirks; gauges that are hard to read (especially 2nd gen), horrendous mileage, CCT's that are waiting to let go, clunky gearbox, mushy brakes, hydraulic clutch that is sub par to most cable clutches and can get a bit "grabby" and try to throw you off the bike at random inopportune moments, and agricultural suspension. All of that can be remedied, ridden around or learned to love of course and they are a great bike if you can get em cheap. Mine was really clean, came with Wilbers suspension and a big box full of the oem parts that came off it and was dirt cheap.
The 954 is a better bike in every way. The rc51 is legendary but bears absolutely no relation to a superhawk, completely differnt bike from the ground up, and you will have to pay through the nose for a good one, money you could spend on something much more recent or exotic unless you were passionate.
As others have mentioned might even be worth adding VFR800 to the list.
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