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Battery not charging and neutral

So we have had a fee issues when hubbies bike came back from repairs. Have sorted most of them but still battling with the battery. It is a brand new battery but its charging is intermittent. What could cause this? We were on our first open road ride this afternoon, luckily we had a vehicle behind us too, but hubby ran out of fuel and then it wphldnt start again, jumped it from the vehicle and off we went. Hubby cannot get it on charge on bike, took out to charge at work tomorrow.

Then neutral, if the wheels are not rolling you cannot get it into neutral, so you have to put into neutral before you stop dead... Shop says that if revs are high on idle if wont go in. But his revs on idle are around 1000rpm

My bike on other hand, cbr600 also does not want to start if it stands for a few minutes after a ride, i will have to turn the throttle to get it going at startup. If it stands till next day its fine

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Re: Battery not charging and neutral

when you say "its charging is intermittent"ly, I assume you have tested the charging circuit, or is this speculation? The workshop manual tells you how to test the charging circuit section 16-6 refers. Once you have results from a test you should then be able to pinpoint the problem. It will either be the Regulator Rectifier or the stator. the RR is reasonable common fault, but this can burn out the stator too. both are easy to replace.
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So, i replaced rectifier, battery seems to be fine now, yesterday we took the clutch apart and saw that the Large ID clutch disc was not replaced by the workshop that did the gears, so we put that it.

The FI light is also gone, we first reconnected flappers etc and servo motor, but think the servo is faulty, so we built our own servo elimator and that's also gone

We also put his ols throttle body back as the one we put in had felt very lazy

I am so glad all this crap is sorted, hubby is smiling from ear to ear again and says his bike is what it was, but with a second gear
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Re: Battery not charging and neutral

That's really great news for you both.

Now you can share some rides, feel the relief of accomplishment, and set your hearts on one or two of these:
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That's really great news for you both.

Now you can share some rides, feel the relief of accomplishment, and set your hearts on one or two of these:[IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_grin.png[/IMG]
If the weather just wants to give us some riding time, we had a short ride yesterday to take a test drive, now the holidays are on us and we can ride.
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Hubbies bike has had it, bearing not. Out of nowhere. He doesnt abuse it and just put on new tyres, chains and sprokets yesterday 😭😭😭😭😭&#x1f 62d;😭😭
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Re: Battery not charging and neutral

Sorry to hear that.

Is it time to cut your losses and sell it as a project or parts and move on?

(Of course I know about 'money not growing on trees' etc.)
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Sorry to hear that.

Is it time to cut your losses and sell it as a project or parts and move on?[IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_sad.png[/IMG]

(Of course I know about 'money not growing on trees' etc.)
We are going to cut our losses, just going to loose soooo much now😭
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Sorry to hear that.

Is it time to cut your losses and sell it as a project or parts and move on?[IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/fireblades_toucan/smilies/tango_face_sad.png[/IMG]

(Of course I know about 'money not growing on trees' etc.)
We are going to cut our losses, just going to loose soooo much now😭

Here is hubbies new ride, 2010 model 21000km on, wont believe its fooking standing! Battery swollen and it blows the fuse when you start. Have replaced battery but cant start it because fuse keeps blowing. So over it!
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Here is hubbies new ride, 2010 model 21000km on, wont believe its fooking standing! Battery swollen and it blows the fuse when you start. Have replaced battery but cant start it because fuse keeps blowing. So over it!
Looks like it has a tail tidy (or fender eliminator kit) depending where you're from , so there could be a pinched wire there somewhere, or a short in that ugly battery. Get a nice new OEM battery (if that GEL one isn't) and start there. Usually the main fuse blows when there is a short in the battery, a short in the Reg/Rec, or a short to the starter. Give all that a good look.
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Re: Battery not charging and neutral

I think there might be recourse to the dealer on that. Presumably you'd only had it days before noticing this?

Sure, batteries aren't a warranty item, but electrics are by virtue of the fuse blowing.

Agree with Ian (above) about the pinched wire, but any problem arising from that should have been evident upon purchase/test.
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I think there might be recourse to the dealer on that. Presumably you'd only had it days before noticing this?

Sure, batteries aren't a warranty item, but electrics are by virtue of the fuse blowing.

Agree with Ian (above) about the pinched wire, but any problem arising from that should have been evident upon purchase/test.
The dealer is picking up the bike on Jan. We have notified the bank to not yet pay the dealer. When will our luck ever start turning. Its our riding season now, so we are just highly frustrated now too.
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