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post #1 of 25 Old 03-27-2008, 11:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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Boring the cylinders on a 954

has anyone had to bore the cylinders on a 954. The pistons I've looked at say the cylinders will need to be "glazed". what does this mean. I researched the 954 engine and found that to save weight they made the cylinder sleeves of sintered aluminum. this site also stated that it only allowed for a bore of +.25mm.

anyhow, what does glazing mean? and where can I get it done?

here is the link for the engine makeup:
2002 Honda CBR 954 RR Fireblade - Ride Review - Page 2

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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

PM silverbullet, he's a site sponsor or he may chime in in here. Not sure about glazing but deglazing is accomplished by honing and crosshatching the cylinder bore.

And since I don't know for sure I will again direct you to a reputable sponsor such as silverbullet but I think the cylinders have a surface hardness treatment coating on them that has to be reapplied after machine work is done and if I remeber correctly yes .25mm is all the bore increase you can get.....

Erion racing had a bunch of .25mm over 954 race pistons last time I was looking at their site.
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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

Yeah their site doesn't have anything right now. They used to have a lot of decent stuff. Thanks man. I appreciate the response.
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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

Ok here's what I've found so far. The process is known as re-plating not re-glazing. I got the piston sizes confused on the wiseco site. Apparently you need to de-glaze for std bore and re-plate for the 1mm overbore. There are all kinds of shops that do it, but it's not exactly cheap... Almost $700 to have it bored and plated. Not sure If I'll be going this route or not. I will definately be going through the motor this time though. Not gonna lose more riding time because the last guy didn't take care of his stuff. oh well these are the risks of buying used.
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Man there is actually a lot of different information on the internet... not just about this, but other stuff too. Who knew there was more than porn out there?
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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

I got a buddy that had his done. Don't quote me on it, but I think it's a 980 kit?? He had to have the cylinders treated similiar to nikisil. I can ask him where he had it done if I can ever catch his butt home. He is a tightwad so I know he didn't pay much for it
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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

That would be awesome. I got nothing but time right now.
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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

Okay, good news and bad news. It is a 980 kit (JE). Here is where he sent his block...Millennium Technologies They supplied him with the piston kit and did the labor but it wasn't cheap. He said he thought it was around 1,500. It's been about 4 years and he couldn't remember the exact amount. Hope that helps.
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Wow I appreciate it man. It's a starting place
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Man there is actually a lot of different information on the internet... not just about this, but other stuff too. Who knew there was more than porn out there?

There's stuff on the internet besides porn and Fireblades.org? Where do I find this new stuff?

Good luck to you on your project man. What exactly is it that you're looking to do with this 954?
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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

well one of the things I want is to get the extra hp. The factory motor only uses 11.5:1 compression. I wanna bump that up and get my head ported. I mostly wanna get 1000rr power from my bike. I still love my 954 but my boys are killin me with the new stuff.
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Ah, gotcha dude. What all have you done to it so far?
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anyhow, what does glazing mean?...

.... Who knew there was more than porn out there?
are you asking about glazing a knuckle?
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Re: Boring the cylinders on a 954

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Ah, gotcha dude. What all have you done to it so far?
well here's the deal. I bought this bike used and wrecked. Not a good combo. This year when I got out there and tried to crank it, for the second year in a row, I had to replace the plugs. That's not exactly cheap. When I did get it to crank, It was making a noise, and skipping a lot. It was backfiring every few seconds. not loud, but just a blub. when I would rev it up it would clean it out and stop skipping. I just figured I had put too much stabilizer in the fuel and it needed that tank ridden out. I got up on easter sunday with the intent of riding. Went out and started it. When it started skipping I revved it pretty hard ( probably 8 or 9k on the tach) and it slung a rod and dumped oil and water all over my shop.
So now I gotta find another engine. I am not gonna put a used engine in my bike without going through it, I dont' wanna go through this in another 2 years. I figure while I got it apart I may as well hop it up some.

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To answer your question though, my bike has a full D&D ( came on the bike), a pc3, and a bmc filter. nothing spectacular right now. Most of my money was spent on the cosmetics. It is flat black with a red tribal flame graphics kit from tapeworks. polished covers and wheels and red chrome screen ( which has to go.. can't see through it.)

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