Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug! - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org
Honda FireBlade Discussion of the Honda CBR 900RR, Honda CBR 929RR, Honda CBR 954RR, and Honda CBR 1000RR Motorcycles.

User Tag List

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 8 Old 03-30-2013, 1:40 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: 03-30-2013
Location: West Sussex, England
Age: 48
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 0
 
Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

I've a 1997 Fireblade 900rrv - I decided to give the bike a service and saw that the front and rear pads could do with replacing. I ended up taking front and rear wheels off to give them a good overhaul, etc. With the brakes, the pad retaining pin plug is stuck on all calipers. It is the small flathead screw/bolt you have to remove before you get to the pin itself. Any ideas on how to remove the plug, please? I'm stripping the head if I continue in the same way. I've trawled the www but thought I'd ask here! I've tried a wd40 type lube but isn't helping!
Spidernutz is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 Old 03-30-2013, 6:54 PM
Global Moderator
 
macca9540's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-11-2006
Location: Yeppoon Qld., Australia
Age: 63
Posts: 14,687
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 270
                     
Send a message via Skype™ to macca9540
Re: Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spidernutz View Post
I've a 1997 Fireblade 900rrv - I decided to give the bike a service and saw that the front and rear pads could do with replacing. I ended up taking front and rear wheels off to give them a good overhaul, etc. With the brakes, the pad retaining pin plug is stuck on all calipers. It is the small flathead screw/bolt you have to remove before you get to the pin itself. Any ideas on how to remove the plug, please? I'm stripping the head if I continue in the same way. I've trawled the www but thought I'd ask here! I've tried a wd40 type lube but isn't helping!
Have you tried an impact driver?


I was young and stupid then. I'm old and stupid now.
We get too soon old, and too late smart.
I started off with nothing and still have most of it left.
A closed mouth gathers no feet.
macca9540 is offline  
post #3 of 8 Old 03-31-2013, 5:39 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: 03-30-2013
Location: West Sussex, England
Age: 48
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 0
 
Re: Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

Haven't tried an impact driver...concern with that is the impact on the caliper. I was not intending on disconnecting the calipers from the brake lines and bleed the brake lines but I'm guessing that'll be the best option to get these darn screws out!! Cheers.
Spidernutz is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 8 Old 03-31-2013, 6:09 AM
Global Moderator
 
bladeracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-2003
Location: Perth, WestOz
Age: 53
Posts: 32,034
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 229
                     
Re: Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spidernutz View Post
Haven't tried an impact driver...concern with that is the impact on the caliper. I was not intending on disconnecting the calipers from the brake lines and bleed the brake lines but I'm guessing that'll be the best option to get these darn screws out!! Cheers.

You don't need to remove the caliper to hit it with the impact driver.
If that doesn't work try heating the caliper to expand the aluminium around the steel and break the bond. You will need to replace the fluid after heating it but you should replace the fluid every year anyway.
If that doesn't work I think you'll have to drill it out.

"I won't forget that ride for a while. Maybe you're right. Living fast might be worth the final crash. Maybe that's the secret you fliers know." - Flight of the Intruder
bladeracer is offline  
post #5 of 8 Old 04-02-2013, 2:49 PM
 
Join Date: 08-25-2008
Location: La Linea, Spain
Posts: 791
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 34
                     
Re: Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

Use the biggest screwdriver in your toolbox, and put 90% effort to pushing "in" and 10% effort to twisting "round". Tap it with a hammer sometimes helps, but these caps are notorious for locking and for rounding out.

And don't put the damaged ones back or I will lay a curse on you!
amorti is offline  
post #6 of 8 Old 04-02-2013, 3:37 PM
Global Moderator
 
bladeracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-14-2003
Location: Perth, WestOz
Age: 53
Posts: 32,034
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 229
                     
Re: Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

Quote:
Originally Posted by amorti View Post
Use the biggest screwdriver in your toolbox, and put 90% effort to pushing "in" and 10% effort to twisting "round". Tap it with a hammer sometimes helps, but these caps are notorious for locking and for rounding out.

And don't put the damaged ones back or I will lay a curse on you!

Giving them a good coating of grease during assembly is sure to help prevent them binding.

"I won't forget that ride for a while. Maybe you're right. Living fast might be worth the final crash. Maybe that's the secret you fliers know." - Flight of the Intruder
bladeracer is offline  
post #7 of 8 Old 04-13-2013, 10:40 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: 03-30-2013
Location: West Sussex, England
Age: 48
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 0
 
Re: Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

Bonjour! Well, with some precision heating applied with a pencil blowtorch, a couple of sharp whacks with hammer and flathead screwdriver, the biotches came off!! Pins came out with no hassle at all. Thank you all very much for the tips and guides. Amorti - new pin plugs I have and will be fitted
Now to sort out the seized pistons! ;p
Spidernutz is offline  
post #8 of 8 Old 04-13-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Join Date: 08-25-2008
Location: La Linea, Spain
Posts: 791
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 34
                     
Re: Q from a newbie! Stuck brake pad retaining pin plug!

Good lad!

And to echo BR, copperslip is your friend, if you don't have that grey grease. WTF is it called now?

Seized pistons are great fun, but here's a better idea - you can fit the later gold calipers off a 929-954 or 600RR3-4. By the time you've paid for one or two pistons and a set of seals, you're already into the cost of replacement calipers.

These have bigger pistons and bigger pads for more friction area, fit 1:1 on your forks and best of all the gold anodising of the body is done after machining so the grooves don't rot. No, even better than that they have teflon coated aluminum pistons, so barring cack handed use of pliers, they'll never ever corrode.

You will require a 5/8" master cylinder off a 98-99 blade, or the master cylinder from the bike you're getting the brakes off. Also these will be compatible with modern radial master cylinders too.


Last edited by amorti; 04-13-2013 at 11:05 AM.
amorti is offline  
Reply

  Lower Navigation
Go Back   Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org > Honda Motorcycle Models > Honda FireBlade

Tags
brakes , fireblade 900rrv , pin , plug , stuck

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
A valid e-mail address is REQUIRED. You will not have access to any site features until you activate your account using the activation e-mail that is sent to this address.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Caliper pad retaining pins jdugen General Discussion 16 05-04-2017 11:33 AM
HELP! Stripped plug! Can I tap threads to 12mm and install a 12mm plug w/same reach?? es954rr General Discussion 4 10-01-2012 4:02 PM
954 drain plug clearance? aftermarket magnetic plug length? es954rr Honda FireBlade 10 03-23-2012 7:26 PM
Newbie front brake question xxcbr600xx General Discussion 32 09-03-2010 9:24 PM
WTB: Devil Highmount Exhaust hanger & peg retaining kit 97BladeRider Wanted 0 10-18-2006 11:59 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome