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Help with 929 water connections please

I am near to completing my 929 Road/Track Bike I have built from the ground up.
Can someone please tell me where the small water hoses go to from:
1. The nipple on the underside of the thermostat housing and
2. The nipple just above the coolant inlet union (immediately to the right).
Both nipples are the same size and both face back towards the rear of the bike.
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Re: Help with 929 water connections please

It's all in the service manual

If the bike isn't braking properly, you don't start by rebuilding the engine.
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I am near to completing my 929 Road/Track Bike I have built from the ground up.
Can someone please tell me where the small water hoses go to from:
1. The nipple on the underside of the thermostat housing and
2. The nipple just above the coolant inlet union (immediately to the right).
Both nipples are the same size and both face back towards the rear of the bike.

As Sky points out, the manual is by far the best source of this sort of information.
Are you talking about the connections to the wax unit perhaps?

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Re: Help with 929 water connections please

The only manual I have is a Haynes which doesn't help.
What is the WAX unit? I think this may be a missing piece of my jigsaw!
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The only manual I have is a Haynes which doesn't help.
What is the WAX unit? I think this may be a missing piece of my jigsaw!


It's on the bottom of the throttle bodies and controls the starter valves for cold starting.

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Re: Help with 929 water connections please

Thanks Bladeracer. Found the WAX unit and fitted the pipes.
I see you are a regular contributor to technical issues on the forum.
Can you help with this one?
I have just fitted a UK spec ECU with matching HISS transmitter, ignition and key - (purchased from a breaker who tells me it's all good).
When I connected-up the battery and turned the ignition on, the green lamp came on with a key symbol next to it. FI also showed on the dash.
Cranking the engine with a plug out doesn't produce a spark.
After a few attempts the green lamp no longer comes on and the FI symbol has gone.
The battery was getting low so i've put it on charge with an Optimate.
This will be the first time the engine has been started in this bike (and for a couple of years).
I would appreciate any advice you can offer.
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Thanks Bladeracer. Found the WAX unit and fitted the pipes.
I see you are a regular contributor to technical issues on the forum.
Can you help with this one?
I have just fitted a UK spec ECU with matching HISS transmitter, ignition and key - (purchased from a breaker who tells me it's all good).
When I connected-up the battery and turned the ignition on, the green lamp came on with a key symbol next to it. FI also showed on the dash.
Cranking the engine with a plug out doesn't produce a spark.
After a few attempts the green lamp no longer comes on and the FI symbol has gone.
The battery was getting low so i've put it on charge with an Optimate.
This will be the first time the engine has been started in this bike (and for a couple of years).
I would appreciate any advice you can offer.

The HISS sensor is not a matched part of the system, your old sensor would be fine. Neither is the ignition switch. HISS is only the ECU and the chip in the key.
Is the bank angle sensor correctly mounted under the rear tank bracket?

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Re: Help with 929 water connections please

The bank angle sensor is loose but propped up the right way. It clicks when I tilt it (which I guess means it works). What else must be properly connected to get a spark? Air box sensors etc?
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The bank angle sensor is loose but propped up the right way. It clicks when I tilt it (which I guess means it works). What else must be properly connected to get a spark? Air box sensors etc?

Do you have any MIL codes on the dash?
Not many sensors prevent spark. TPS and injector codes will, also crank and cam sensors.

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Re: Help with 929 water connections please

The only code was FI or F1?
I'm nit aware of any others.
Would they be obvious?
The battery did get low - could this be an issue?
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The only code was FI or F1?
I'm nit aware of any others.
Would they be obvious?
The battery did get low - could this be an issue?

MIL codes will be a flashing red light, but the sidestand must be down.
As long as it has enough power to turn the engine over it should be more than sufficient to generate spark.

EDIT: The FI light is telling you that there are MIL's and it should flash the codes when you put the sidestand down.

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Re: Help with 929 water connections please

FI shows briefly when the ignition is turned on - then it goes off.
The stand switch makes no difference, up or down there are no MILs.
I have tried taking the stand switch out of the circuit and bridging the 2 wires to simulate the stand down but this has no effect either.
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FI shows briefly when the ignition is turned on - then it goes off.
The stand switch makes no difference, up or down there are no MILs.
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That's normal.

If the bike isn't braking properly, you don't start by rebuilding the engine.
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Re: Help with 929 water connections please

Thanks Sky. Your help is appreciated.
I have just discovered that the Diode in the fuse box is not checking out for continuity as it should.
Time to get to the Honda dealers again to buy a new one!
Does it matter if the clutch switch is not connected? I have a spade terminal broken off so it's not connected but I figured that wouldn't matter as long as the bike is in neutral?
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Shouldn't make a difference. If the starter turns the engine over, the switch not working is not a concern.

If the bike isn't braking properly, you don't start by rebuilding the engine.
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