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Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

Hey all. I know this is discussed at lengths on here and everywhere else but I'm still at a loss. I have a 98 900rrw and want the 17" front wheel due to tire choices alone. 16" tires r becoming extinct. I want the Mich Pilot Road 3's or something comparable. I was thinking of using the 98 VFR front wheel. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

Vfr wheel will work. Fit Fi blackbird discs and you shouldn't need to machine the disc faces either.

Otherwise Fi blackbird wheel as an assembly is a maybe but 3 spokes. Blackbird carb wheel as an assembly is a maybe too. Either these options (as with 600f3 etc wheel and carb blackbird discs) may or may not require you to space the calipers in by a mm or two.
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

I just stuck on an R1 front end, 17'' wheel and upside downies as well. Three spoke wheel so stick an '08 back wheel in there, (190 tire!), fits straight in except for machining the spindle / axle carrier out to 25mm. Maybe a bit more than you want to do?
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

Is it that easy to fit a later rear wheel? ie, does it fit between the swingarm rails, line up the chain, and what adjusters can you use?

One day I'll get around to a 17" front and probably use it as an excuse to get 3 spoke wheels. Not only are they lighter (who cares) but lots easier to clean than those bloody hollowed out 6 spokes. Love the look, hate cleaning them.
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

Thanks for all the replies. I believe this winter I'll be getting a vfr wheel for Christmas . For this year I was thinking of running the Pilot Rd 3 on the rear and the Avon av45 azaro st on the front. I do mostly commuting and cruising with the occasional sport carving. Never any track days. Any thoughts?
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

I have a angel ST on the rear and a Metzeler sporttec on the front. It doesn't really feel right at all when dropping in to corners, I think the ST and SS profiles are too different. But there are no ST 16" fronts any more, and I don't want SS rears.

Time to switch the front wheel out, then...
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

'08 back wheel slips right in, no jacking around with spacers, chain line perfect. You will need the '08 caliper hanger and caliper. The axle / spindle holes will need machining out to the 25mm of the '08 spindle from the (I think 20 / 22 mm) of the standard spindle. It can be done 'Ghetto' style by drilling a succession of 25 mm holes and then filing / grinding them level, but a machine shop will do it for not much $. The axle / spindle is longer, but the '08 end blocks take this up and fit in the adjuster rebate perfectly.
Handling is unaffected, I've not noticed any slowing of corner transitions, but, you have to go a long way over to get your chicken strips reduced to a manly width!
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

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I've not noticed any slowing of corner transitions, but, you have to go a long way over to get your chicken strips reduced to a manly width!
Ahmen, you should try with the 55/190 even harder!!



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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

It occurs to me the 04-05 Fireblade was fitted with the same 310mm discs. Has anyone measured the disc mounting width? It'll have a bigger spindle, but that's nothing a new set of spacers couldn't fix, just make top hat/reducer spacers, then you also have captive spacers which is nice. They just need to be long enough to be a spacer, and reduce the bearing diameter, and protrude a couple mm to hold the centre spacer in line.

I think if I would go for the back wheel I'd do the same, pack out the wheel onto the spindle rather than machining the swingarm. Still very good knowledge that the wheel slips in and lines up the chain.

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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

I had 04-05 disks on my SP1 front wheel Morti all fits fine to the wheel which should be the same for 954/929 wheels too



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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

Hmm. A workmate has an '04 blade, I'll try and sidle up to it with a ruler.
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

I did the upgrade to the 17 inch front a couple of years back and as far as I can remember having spent a long time looking into it, there is no direct swap out for the RRW/RRX. The easiest way is the VFR800 with the disc mounting shoulders machined down. As far as I can remember the Blackbird discs, 600 wheels, etc, etc... Don't work...
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

Have a look in eBay at Chinese discs. Blackbird discs from Fi bike are the same as rrw discs but with 2mm less offset. So unless you have perfect not warped original discs with hardly any wear you could just as well use the money save from machining towards fresh discs.
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

Actually I just bought new discs at the end of last yr. I'm keeping my eyes open for a 98 vfr wheel I found one but its $300.
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Re: Easiest 17" front wheel swap for RRW

OK so I ended up buying a Mich Pilot Road 3 for the rear and Avon Azaro AV45 for the front. I'm gonna ask Santa for the VFR wheel LOL next year I guess. Thanks everyone
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