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900 Steering Alignment Issue.


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My bike handlebars turn left fully to lock and right to lock. however the distance is much different. I can tough grip to frame turning left but to the right there is a good amount of space so much so that it makes turning right at low speeds hard to do as it wont turn far enough even though its hitting the stop bump.

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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

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For those that cant watch videos.

My bike handlebars turn left fully to lock and right to lock. however the distance is much different. I can tough grip to frame turning left but to the right there is a good amount of space so much so that it makes turning right at low speeds hard to do as it wont turn far enough even though its hitting the stop bump.

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Bent handlebar perhaps?

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Bent handlebar perhaps?


I think you have misread the situation too. If the steering is hitting the "lockstop" on both sides then your steering is getting full lock both sides. Most likely is a bent bar giving the illusion the steering isn't moving as far going left. Since bikes are built not to trap your thumb under the bar and tank, I think the right one is straight. If the throttle opens cleanly and closes witha snap then the right one is probably straight.

It's easy enough to confirm -
Unscrew two screws each on left switches and clutch lever. Note the switches have fragile threads when you're reinstalling.
take the top triple off, remove the left bar.
Look along its length or roll it in a piece of glass. You'll soon see if its not straight. They tend to bend on the tube rather than the casting but do eyeball the whole thing closely.
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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

Turn into a stock-car driver and only make left turns! If you need help just google nascar driver... should be lots of good info on there to make only left turns....

Seriously, that is a little bit on the odd side, and the first time I've seen that much of a difference in travel. Looks to be a couple inches difference.... I have a good buddy that owns a shop, I'll ask him what he thinks!

BR, I would say bent bar, but why that that actually make him turn wide when making right turns? It would physically have to be a wider turning radius to make him have to turn wider, but what the hell would cause that>?

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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

One small idea to try out... Set your tire dead straight 90 degree angle to the bike. Measure from the end of each bar end to the same spot on the tank, if the measurement is the same then it is something (maybe) lower down on the forks, something out of adjustment maybe? A part that can be twisted that would cause it to lock right too soon...

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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

Hard to see but is the fork tube on the left closer to the frame rail than on the right when at full lock?
If she's had a good whack in the front maybe it's compressed the lockstop.
In my crash last month I smashed the left lockstop off the steering head.

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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

Yes, as it was said before, the left fork tube seems to be much closer to the frame than the right. Your left bar should not come anywhere near smashing your fingers against the frame. Either that bar is bent as others said, or there is something amiss at the steering head/front wheel. Also, I noticed your bars have no bar ends on them. Any particular reason why? The stock bars have locating pins on them to articulate into the underneath of the top triple clamp. Make sure it's located properly. My guess is you have proper clearance on the right side, and it's the left side you need to worry about. If you had means to get the front end off the ground and loosen and re torque every nut and bolt associated with the front end, then that may be the problem. Something maybe loose. But it seems I would focus on the left side, not the right. Lock to lock steering should give you plenty of room on each side with your hands on the bars. There should be no finger smashing. The right side looks like you get proper clearance. Did this happen all of a sudden? I think Amorti and I are on the same page.

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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

Pause at 0:23 is that fork bent or is it just me?
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Pause at 0:23 is that fork bent or is it just me?
Can't really tell from that angle. It could cause issues with steering but if it were bent enough to cause the bar misalignment to that degree, I do not think you would get the forks into the yokes at all.

Still, Frozone, might be worth getting someone who knows what he's looking at, to take a look.
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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

Its super late. im tired. this is awesome. i will respond tomorrow with more info n see what i can do.

This bike was def dropped before by the PO. I dont have bar ends because the left sides weight simply fell out with the bar ends while riding. the right side bar end just unscrewed itself. its a **** all. new/used bars coming in soon anyways (clip ons)
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One small idea to try out... Set your tire dead straight 90 degree angle to the bike. Measure from the end of each bar end to the same spot on the tank, if the measurement is the same then it is something (maybe) lower down on the forks, something out of adjustment maybe? A part that can be twisted that would cause it to lock right too soon...
Ok yby 90 degrees do yo mean take the wheel off? I can def measure stuff
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Hard to see but is the fork tube on the left closer to the frame rail than on the right when at full lock?
If she's had a good whack in the front maybe it's compressed the lockstop.
In my crash last month I smashed the left lockstop off the steering head.
I will take a new video tomorrow! Yea it has def been dropped hard on the lft.-
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Yes, as it was said before, the left fork tube seems to be much closer to the frame than the right. Your left bar should not come anywhere near smashing your fingers against the frame. Either that bar is bent as others said, or there is something amiss at the steering head/front wheel. Also, I noticed your bars have no bar ends on them. Any particular reason why? The stock bars have locating pins on them to articulate into the underneath of the top triple clamp. Make sure it's located properly. My guess is you have proper clearance on the right side, and it's the left side you need to worry about. If you had means to get the front end off the ground and loosen and re torque every nut and bolt associated with the front end, then that may be the problem. Something maybe loose. But it seems I would focus on the left side, not the right. Lock to lock steering should give you plenty of room on each side with your hands on the bars. There should be no finger smashing. The right side looks like you get proper clearance. Did this happen all of a sudden? I think Amorti and I are on the same page.
its been like this since day one. i recently got the bike to go straight wtihout having to turn the bars. by loosening the pinch bolts that hold the clips ons and banging the wheel. I guess next time i have free i will go down the bolts. Mind you i am very new to this whole thing. so some terminology or just common stuff i might not know

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Can't really tell from that angle. It could cause issues with steering but if it were bent enough to cause the bar misalignment to that degree, I do not think you would get the forks into the yokes at all.

Still, Frozone, might be worth getting someone who knows what he's looking at, to take a look.
will do. gonna take a better video soon. (in the morning)
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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

I was referring to keeping the wheel 100% straight in line with the bike and measure your bars to the same point on the tank. The filler cap is a good solid reference point. Your left bar indeed should not butt up all the way against the tank, your throttle looks like it stops just about where it should.

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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

working on it guys!
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Re: 900 Steering Alignment Issue.

keep us up to date! I would still suspect you have something wrong with the left side, at least if it's at stock height, it should not get that close to the tank. The only time you see bars get that close is on bikes that have been lowered and the clip-ons are lower on the forks.

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