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1000RR Swinger on a 954?

Trying to figure out if it is feasible, possible, and wise to go for a newer 1KRR swinger on my 954. I heard the Unit Pro-Link swing arms are supposed to be a very nicely designed and light-weight swinger...

The noticeable differences- the shock mount is on the swing arm itself, which I would imagine I could find a way to either eliminate this from the new arm, or modify the current shock to mount on the new arm..

The mounting point- the 954 swinger bolts up to the back of the motor... I think the 1KRR swinger mounts to the frame?


I know anything is possible if you throw enough money at the problem, but I am trying to figure out if this is possible without spending a fortune or having to modify the entire bike.... I have searched the forums to no avail for anyone else having a go at this, again, no luck though. Any opinions are more than welcome for, against, or indifferent on why or why not and ease or burden of this idea.

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Trying to figure out if it is feasible, possible, and wise to go for a newer 1KRR swinger on my 954. I heard the Unit Pro-Link swing arms are supposed to be a very nicely designed and light-weight swinger...

The noticeable differences- the shock mount is on the swing arm itself, which I would imagine I could find a way to either eliminate this from the new arm, or modify the current shock to mount on the new arm..

The mounting point- the 954 swinger bolts up to the back of the motor... I think the 1KRR swinger mounts to the frame?


I know anything is possible if you throw enough money at the problem, but I am trying to figure out if this is possible without spending a fortune or having to modify the entire bike.... I have searched the forums to no avail for anyone else having a go at this, again, no luck though. Any opinions are more than welcome for, against, or indifferent on why or why not and ease or burden of this idea.

You could do it but I wouldn't.
It's very heavy to take _all_ the shock loads, and it's quite long. I have an '06 unit here from when I thought it'd be a good idea as well :-)
A conventional swingarm simply hangs off the bottom of the shock. The 1000RR is pretty cool in having both ends of the shock attached to the swingarm so the suspension forces don't go into the frame.
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When they came out and I saw (from behind) how incredibly well the bikes were pulling off the turns I figured I'd try putting one on the 929 :-)
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Re: 1000RR Swinger on a 954?

Did you actually end up fitting the 1000RR swinger on it, or did you decide against it before starting on the project? It would seem by that article you provided that it is not just the swing arm that improved handling, but and entire rework to the suspension as a whole.. I wonder what the difference is in weight, though I suspect they are probably very close anyway.

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Did you actually end up fitting the 1000RR swinger on it, or did you decide against it before starting on the project? It would seem by that article you provided that it is not just the swing arm that improved handling, but and entire rework to the suspension as a whole.. I wonder what the difference is in weight, though I suspect they are probably very close anyway.

As soon as a had it in my hands I could tell it was too big and heavy to be worth messing with. From memory I think it was 40-50mm longer than the 929 swingarm.
I would have to dig it out from wherever I hid it once I decided against using it. I bought the swingarm complete with shock and linkages.
The "article" is actually Honda's own propaganda for the later models so don't take it as entirely truthful or accurate ;-)

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Re: 1000RR Swinger on a 954?

Somebody here actually fitted it to 929/954 but he noticed the same thing. It's very heavy compared to 929/954. Try i search on the forum or google
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Re: 1000RR Swinger on a 954?

Yep, I fitted a CBR1000RR swinger to a 929 (954 will be the same procedure). It wasn't noticeably heavier, especially when all the linkages and shock is mounted, has improved the wheelie tendencies and made the rear end much more supple.
It's not a mod for the faint hearted though.

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Re: 1000RR Swinger on a 954?

Bah, guess I'll just be sticking with the stock swinger. If anything maybe I'll shoot for a SSSA at some point if I keep the ole girl around that long!

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Re: 1000RR Swinger on a 954?

I fitted one to a 918 (carby). Lovely piece of engineering but too long for 'our' designs. It is really designed for 'up and under' gearbox type engines that are much shorter than the 'lie flat' gearboxes so is a good two inches too long. Fine for a drag bike I suppose. The one thing that really put me off though was the chain length, worked out to be about 120 links on mine, didn't fancy that lot thrashing around under my left leg.
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