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93 900RR Died after about an hour of riding

Hey All,

I was out and about yesterday and riding along and the bike decided to just die. Waited for about 5 minutes trying to start it, would just crank and crank.

Called tow truck, 45-1.30 mins wait. walked around and came back after about 20 mins bike started right up. Cancelled tow

I had fuel. Bike was running fine, wasnt hot, i didnt accidently hit the shutoff swith. All was fine before it happened

Im thinking stator but before i go digging around as im working all weekend 12 hr days im not gunna have time to dig into it till tuesday.

Suggestions/Thoughts?
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Re: 93 900RR Died after about an hour of riding

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Hey All,

I was out and about yesterday and riding along and the bike decided to just die. Waited for about 5 minutes trying to start it, would just crank and crank.

Called tow truck, 45-1.30 mins wait. walked around and came back after about 20 mins bike started right up. Cancelled tow

I had fuel. Bike was running fine, wasnt hot, i didnt accidently hit the shutoff swith. All was fine before it happened

Im thinking stator but before i go digging around as im working all weekend 12 hr days im not gunna have time to dig into it till tuesday.

Suggestions/Thoughts?

Did you lose dash lights when it died?
Not the charging system if the engine was turning over okay.

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Re: 93 900RR Died after about an hour of riding

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Hey All,

I was out and about yesterday and riding along and the bike decided to just die. Waited for about 5 minutes trying to start it, would just crank and crank.

Called tow truck, 45-1.30 mins wait. walked around and came back after about 20 mins bike started right up. Cancelled tow

I had fuel. Bike was running fine, wasnt hot, i didnt accidently hit the shutoff swith. All was fine before it happened

Im thinking stator but before i go digging around as im working all weekend 12 hr days im not gunna have time to dig into it till tuesday.

Suggestions/Thoughts?
I would suggest maybe water in the fuel, or a problem with the delivery? Has the bike been used consistently or has it sat a while? Toss in a little more background on the bike. It is a 93, original. Is the tank clean inside? Check the filter screen for the fuel valve if there seems to be sediment in the tank. I would imagine you didn't need to switch over to reserve? Otherwise chalk it up to a freak of nature. Doesn't really sound normal, unless the fuel pump stopped working for a bit. The fuel wont get around it if it stops. IMHO I would discard the pump altogether and run it straight from the tank to the carbs. No fuel pumps on either of my 93's. I would suggest then running a vacuum operated petcock, to minimize the likelihood of fuel overflowing the carbs needle valves become an issue. You could get hydro lock. Anyhow, feed us some more info.

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Re: 93 900RR Died after about an hour of riding

Thanks for the replies gents,

Blade not sure where i even came up with the stator TBH lights were fine

Bike gets ridden every week, atleast once a week.

Ive had the carbs done by a shop when i bought it a year ago. Ive installed new plugs new fuel filter when i first purchased it.

Tank is spotless, fuel filter is clean and clear.

Ive never heard the pump run on this bike so cant say it was working or not.

Bike is totally stock except full exhaust and jet ket.

Also i opened the tank up to see i had fuel only had 80 miles on the tank, but switched it to reserve anyways, still didnt start

No issues since i had the carbs redone by the shop a year ago.

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You won't hear the pump run, it only gives the fuel a little "push" up hill. It cycles every couple of seconds, only sounds like a faint click when it does. I would chalk it up to "unfounded problem" at this point. Still, could have had some sh!t in the fuel and she became grumpy. Have you ridden it since?

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Re: 93 900RR Died after about an hour of riding

i have not ridden it since, Parked it and went about my day

Drove the car to work and it sits in the garage.

Anything is posisble but i dont like to be stranded on the side of the road
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Re: 93 900RR Died after about an hour of riding

Well i finally got around to riding this today. Rode around town close by home. Bike was fine for about 30 minutes. Then started to spit and sputter.

Got it home, checked a few things.

Was getting spark and fuel.

Bike still doesnt run normally, removed fuel pump and ran without it. Ran better but still has issues.

If you gunned it, it would spit and sputter and sometimes even die, but get it above 2k and it would scream as always.

Currently on the charger, more to come some other weekend
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Well i finally got around to riding this today. Rode around town close by home. Bike was fine for about 30 minutes. Then started to spit and sputter.

Got it home, checked a few things.

Was getting spark and fuel.

Bike still doesnt run normally, removed fuel pump and ran without it. Ran better but still has issues.

If you gunned it, it would spit and sputter and sometimes even die, but get it above 2k and it would scream as always.

Currently on the charger, more to come some other weekend

Why on earth are you "gunning it" from so low in the tach?

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Well i finally got around to riding this today. Rode around town close by home. Bike was fine for about 30 minutes. Then started to spit and sputter.

Check that the tank is venting properly.

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Why on earth are you "gunning it" from so low in the tach?
blipping the throttle causing the spit and sputtering. Did not have that issue before, u blip the throttle and response was fine now its not
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Check that the tank is venting properly.

this is even when tank is removed and carbs are using fuel in the bowls
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I'm thinking a slow circuit clog or fuel screw issue. Check the fuel screw position. They should probably be about 2.5 to 3 turns out from lightly seated. Pull he slow jets and check them for debris or gunk. Clean all the passageways with carb cleaner and put back together. If the stalling is fixed and now just stumbles at low RPM while blipping, this is where I would begin.

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Re: 93 900RR Died after about an hour of riding

Thanks for all the replies gents.

Yeah my next thought was carbs even though they were cleaned last year.

I have the settings that the shop used for the carbs so ill be digging into things more as time goes on. As this isnt a priority right now ill get to it when i can.
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Welp on my days off i got around to tearing apart the carbs and cleaning them.

Carbs were clean as a whistle. i went through and tore the carbs down an cleaned all jets and passageways with compressed air and carb cleaner and visually inspected for any signs of issues. None to be found.

Bike back together and runs and starts but when bliping the throttle it has the same response, sluggish and bogging. Easy into the throttle and its fine.

Ill continue troubleshooting as days go on but any insight from here is welcomed.
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Welp on my days off i got around to tearing apart the carbs and cleaning them.

Carbs were clean as a whistle. i went through and tore the carbs down an cleaned all jets and passageways with compressed air and carb cleaner and visually inspected for any signs of issues. None to be found.

Bike back together and runs and starts but when bliping the throttle it has the same response, sluggish and bogging. Easy into the throttle and its fine.

Ill continue troubleshooting as days go on but any insight from here is welcomed.

Where are the mixture screws set?
Have you tried leaning them off?

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