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The mistery that is 929's clutch

The story goes like this. At cold startup for about 2 seconds noises from the clutch (not always, for example, after a long ride, the day after no sound, none what so ever) .. I've read everything clutch base related problems and despite the fact that are many topics on the subject, nobody has come with an answer. If you got the end of it please let me know.
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The story goes like this. At cold startup for about 2 seconds noises from the clutch (not always, for example, after a long ride, the day after no sound, none what so ever) .. I've read everything clutch base related problems and despite the fact that are many topics on the subject, nobody has come with an answer. If you got the end of it please let me know.

Do you actually have any clutch problems?
Does the noise stop when you pull the clutch lever?

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Do you actually have any clutch problems?
Does the noise stop when you pull the clutch lever?
No, the clutch works just perfect and yes the noise stops when i pull the clutch lever.

It's like the clutch basket engages something that shouldn't. I'm not realy sure if it's something about the rest position, or wear on those spacers ..........maybe to much side play because of the clutch basket bearing. Whatever would it be it's almost a general problem with 929

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No, the clutch works just perfect and yes the noise stops when i pull the clutch lever.

Then it's just the damper springs getting loose, nothing to worry about.

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Re: The mistery that is 929's clutch

What kind of noise are you hearing? Was there a point that the noise began, such as after you changed the plates? Also, you said the day after no noise on long rides, how about three four days after a long ride, any noise?
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Then it's just the damper springs getting loose, nothing to worry about.
You know, i was also thinking about that, sometimes on quik revs at neutral i hear those plates more than i would like.

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What kind of noise are you hearing? Was there a point that the noise began, such as after you changed the plates? Also, you said the day after no noise on long rides, how about three four days after a long ride, any noise?
sounds like a general mess with lots of plates involved..........are you thinking about fuel preasure....oil leaking back into the pan ?

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Re: The mistery that is 929's clutch

So, i tried starting the bike with the clutch lever pulled....all quiet!
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So, i tried starting the bike with the clutch lever pulled....all quiet!

Do you mean the noise is completely gone after starting with the clutch lever pulled in, it doesn't come back after cycling the lever?
Was it in gear?

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Re: The mistery that is 929's clutch

Yes the sound is completely gone and it doesn't come back after. I even made some tricks today to be sure the clutch is ok, like some brutal acceleration etc. It's more than ok and by that i mean almost to the "takeoff" point. No it wasn't in gear.

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Yes the sound is completely gone and it doesn't come back after

It's gone completely now?
Even starting without the clutch?

Perhaps it's a broken plate then, maybe that initial centrifugal spin was throwing it outwards, but engaging the clutch was locking it in place?

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Re: The mistery that is 929's clutch

No, just pulling the lever the sound disappears
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Re: The mistery that is 929's clutch

Any new ideeas?

A worn bearing, impropper tension in the clutch cable, loosen primary nut, wich one is it?

Now you can hear plates knocking even after i start the engine but just until it worms up
Everybody says it's a honda and in particular a 929 thing but i've seen 0 answers so far.
Why, the question is why?

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Any new ideeas?

A worn bearing, impropper tension in the clutch cable, loosen primary nut, wich one is it?

Now you can hear plates knocking even after i start the engine but just until it worms up
Everybody says it's a honda and in particular a 929 thing but i've seen 0 answers so far.
Why, the question is why?

If you believe you can hear "plates knocking" pull the clutch and make sure none of the plates are broken.
Frankly, it just sounds like the damper springs to me.

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Re: The mistery that is 929's clutch

I'll do that Bladeracer but in lack of time would sure help some feedback on the matter in hand before i start, being such a large scale honda issue.
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I'll do that Bladeracer but in lack of time would sure help some feedback on the matter in hand before i start, being such a large scale honda issue.

What do you mean by a "large scale Honda issue"?
I'm not aware of any issue with the clutches, although the original 929 did have a recall for exploding clutch baskets.
Otherwise, I'm not aware of any inherent problem with the clutch.

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