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Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

So I have a minor issue I'd like to correct. Whenever I turn a hard left or park, the throttle cable 90 degree bends will hit the fairing. A shop told me that something was broken in the fairing stays(they think my bike was used for stunting by previous owner) which is why the right side hangs a bit lower but I took things apart today and all things appear intact. Is there a common break point from wheelies?
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Lower right side. 1-2 inches it appears.
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I tried just pulling up the one side and snugging the bolts but that didn't do anything because of the washer sleeves that are there. I tried both up and down(which is the right way?) but that sleeve prevents real tightness against the rubber preventing holding stay in a specific spot.
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The other option is to twist the starter button/killswitch mount down. It was returned to me from the shop in this more upward position that when I gave it to them. How should the the cables be routed? How does the black plastic mount for the killswitch/starter button snug down? It does move forward/upward a bit with the turn of the throttle.
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SOLD2000 Honda CBR 929 (owned 3 years and rode 10,000 miles)

No bike at all for the time being.
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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

Nice brake lines and banjo bolts. Where is your windscreen?

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Wheelies break fork seals, rattle the hell out of things, but it looks like someone went aftermarket on a few things known as upgrades. Universal upgrades claim to fit many applications when in fact they fit none. Who knows if they're the right clip ons?

Find a different shop, an experienced shop won't be making up excuses not to fix it right away. You're in Atlanta, imagine the choices you have others don't. That shop sounds inexperienced, try another. Second visit they will not want you giving instructions (hell they don't like it in forums either) and may over charge you for everything, best to start fresh.
THEY can route the lines under the lever, make sure you can still reach the start button (the kill switch is useless, it's just as fast and easy to reach for your keys.)
The brake lever looks bent, cheap to replace, one bolt job.

Nothing should twist or move, there are supposed to be holes drilled in the clip ons, for pins to lock things in place, someone apparently didn't handle this task due to brain damage, and cut the pins off, which sounds like what you have now.

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Got to love second hand sport bikes in the hands of one novice after another. THIS is why I never buy old bikes, especially with wrong mods slapped on the wrong way. (I hope the rev limiter lamp hasn't blown out yet.)

Pay someone to go over the whole bike if it's new to you.
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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

If it doesn't matter to you I would ditch both clip ons and that silly triple clamp. They will cause more problems than not if you're not gonna street fighter it. The fairing stay you showed with the white-out labeled 929 is clearly a junk yard piece. If the shop routed the cables that way they probably did it because lock to lock steering may have been a lot worse than it is now, but I don't like their decision. It looks as though you have a Repsol painted fairing? Not standard 929 fare there either. I would just take that junk yard bracket and bend it up to meet how the left side looks. If the paint cracks just re paint it. Probably what the yard did anyhow. The switch pods do have locating (well should have ) pins in them to prevent rotation. If you spin them around you'll either have to cut it out or drill another hole in the clip on. Yet another reason to ditch them. Sometimes that's they way superbike building/maintenance goes.

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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

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Find a different shop, an experienced shop won't be making up excuses not to fix it right away.
This one had been here since '89 and seemed to have good backing, even from someone on here. But I have found another one that I'll use if needed. Hopefully, nothing I can't handle from here on out. I'm decent with a car but bikes are still new to me.

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The brake lever looks bent, cheap to replace, one bolt job.
I bought this bike on the 4th of July and have put 900 miles on it since and just today noticed the level was not straight like the other..

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Nothing should twist or move, there are supposed to be holes drilled in the clip ons, for pins to lock things in place, someone apparently didn't handle this task due to brain damage, and cut the pins off, which sounds like what you have now.
The two phillips screws are the only things I saw that looked like it might tighten it.


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Eh, I bought it not knowing any better. But, it starts, runs, and shifts well and all lights work. Least I'll learn a bit taking things apart.
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If it doesn't matter to you I would ditch both clip ons and that silly triple clamp.
I agree. I was planning to go back to the stocker once the cold weather arrives. its perfect riding weather right now so I'm not wanting too much down time as I'm not positive on how to change those pieces just yet.

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If the shop routed the cables that way they probably did it because lock to lock steering may have been a lot worse than it is now, but I don't like their decision.
What is the factory route or how would you have done it?

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It looks as though you have a Repsol painted fairing? Not standard 929 fare there either.
Pretty sure it is a Chinese ebay kit. Still is clean and looks good though.

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The switch pods do have locating (well should have ) pins in them to prevent rotation. If you spin them around you'll either have to cut it out or drill another hole in the clip on. Yet another reason to ditch them.
How would I determine the pin location?
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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

The locating pins are usually molded into the plastic housing. On some there is a metal retainer in the pod with a "boss" on it to locate the proper position.

The top clamp just unbolts with the upper pinch bolts and the giant center nut. Easy.

It's tough for me to speculate how it came in regards to the throttle cables because the aftermarket clamp and clip ons have moved the original orientation of the throttle. But I'm sure they were not "jammed" around/on the brake master reservoir hose. I/you could probably find an internet shot of a proper stock 929 set up. If I find one soon I'll add it here. Get a manual, it will have it listed plain as paper. Especially if you feel you want to go forward and do more wrenching on her yourself.

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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

Waiting on funds for the triple clamp and clip ons but I got new levers, black OEM style. Think they were $9 on ebay new.

I also installed a new upper fairing from partzilla. With the new part, it appears the cause for pulling low the right side is the fairing itself as the new one rests at about the same spot. It was a tight fit to pull the stay up to fit through the mirror holes. It is an aftermarket fairing kit. Once I get another triple/clip on set, I expect to have more space to route the cables angled more horizontal to the ground.
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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

dude if you get rid of that top triple please hit me up. I stunt my bike and that would be perfect for me so i could get some extra height out of my clip ons.
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Moving forward with the upper triple and clip on purchase

Think I found a black billet aluminum triple that I think I'm going to order once I settle on clip ons. Couple questions on clip ons though

I like the appearance of renthal (and many others) aftermarket sets but I read that some drilling is required and then having to be creative on how to mount the brake fluid reservoir. That true for all aftermarket clip ons? I'd like just as easy on as off if possible.

I also noticed the OEM clip ons seem to raise up maybe an inch or so higher than the aftermarket
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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

Just measure how far up the bars the holes need to be from what you have now, mark it off on the new ones and drill. Throttle tube and installing your grips are usually more of a pita.
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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

Finally got around to the switch. Now, the lines fit with the engine stop/starter pod actually locked in place with the knob underneath. Before the lines were more upward with it being out.

Triple tree and grips are from ebay. Went with OEM clip ons. This set up matches the bike much better.

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Re: Minor issue - faring stay and/or throttle cables

looks good man.

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Yeah, that looks much better

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