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modify frame cbr 954

hi guys,good morning to everyone,i was looking the cbr 954rr of the team ERION and i saw this: where i can find this? can someone please explain me how put this on the frame?


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no one can help me?

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what is it for?

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it was a modification that the team ERION did to the frame of the CBR 954 in the Formula Xtreme,it need for make the frame more hard cornering , making it flex less than the original configuration
this is another kind of the same modify:

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thats interesting. first time ive seen that done, so im obviously no help. : )

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i think it's a very good modify,one guy (owner of cbr 954 too) told me that the bike after she will be more better (sorry for my English )

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well a certain amount of flex is a good thing. Once upon a time, a frame was just some tubing that held the engine in place and connected the steering head to the swingarm. As tires improved and engine outputs increased, the forces involved in braking and accelerating started to overwhelm the tubular steel chassis, and frame builders started to make their frames stiffer. In the 1990s, chassis builders started to encounter the opposite problem: as their frames got stiffer and stiffer, the bike started chattering and vibrating, making handling terrible, especially when leaned over, when the suspension of a bike ceases to work, being in the wrong plane. And so the concept of flex was introduced, adding sufficient flexibility to allow the bike to absorb some of the bumps while leaned over, but still stiff enough to keep the chassis stable in a straight line and under braking. Since the late 1990s, and especially since the four-stroke era began, a huge amount of work has gone into engineering in exactly enough flexibility in specific areas, while retaining the stiffness in the planes where it is needed.

im not saying the mod wouldnt help or make it better but the engineers spend quite a bit of money and time developing those aspects of the bike. i think on a full on race bike like the erion they likely came into a situation where all the race spec parts bolted onto the standard 954 frame put it in a situation where the chassis was overcame by the forces produced by all the extra horse power and braking forces that you wouldnt find on a street version of the 954.

you would hafta spend a whole lot of money to get a stock 954 into the realm of needing that kinda modification i believe. its a fine balance and the 954 chassis is a good match in my opinion for the bikes power delivery and braking ability just how it sits.

like i said im not saying it wouldnt improve it my friend or that your friend is incorrect because i havent personally done the mod to my 954 so i cant speak from experience. however, it doesnt look like a cheap mod even if you can find something similar on the market to purchase. i havent ever seenn this mod as a bolt on part you can just pick-up at your online parts supplier. it looks pretty custom.

i think if you want to improve your bike in the very best way for the money spent, get your front forks upgraded. you dont hafta buy ohliens but even a nice valve upgrade and springs for your weight are easily the best way to make your bike better. followed by a nice rear shock. then i would move into the brakes. i just think that mod on the erion is due to the bikes very high hp output and its highly modified suspension and brakes. those things put a lot of extra stresses on the frame and then i can see where it might be a justified need. on your street 954, im not so sure your money wouldnt be much better spent on suspension. a fine tuned suspension is hands down the best way to improve the already awesome cbr 954.

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by the way, no need to apologize for your english! your english is way way better than my italian!

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That mod was needed at the Pro level of racing, the stock frame felxed way too much, most club racers never noticed, but the really fast guys did, and modded their frames accordingly. If youre just a street/canyon rider, it is an unneeded mod.
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thank you guys,yes Kevin you have right about that is better spend money about the suspension,i open this post also because i have two friend of mine that they are very interested to this modify (and belive me,they'r 954 they are not original, the suspension they are already done,engine also,ram air,have almost everything and miss only this,the other my friend he is building from the beginning the bike and also him is in the world of the races and also owner to one shop for fix the bikes) and (they are not on this forum) ask to me if i can help to find this,and also it was curiosity of mine to know how it fit on the frame =) if you want i will learn you italian

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just now i found on bikepics...



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A guy I know in Connecticut owns this one.








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that is one sick 954.

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I drool everytime I see any of his collection, here is the Bruce Transportation 929 that he has, and the Team Labelle 900RR, and those arent even the coolest bikes he has.





Check out the swingers, made on CNC in Magnesium.



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i hope he rides those bikes n doesnt just look at them. i would love a chance to do some laps on any of those fine machines.

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