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Are 929 and 954's a bag of trouble

The forum seems to be full of threads about fault codes, fueling problems, electrical issues, starting problems, and gremlins with these bikes. Very few threads about early carbed 'Blade reliability issues. Are the injected 929 and 954 'Blades a load of bother or is this unfair.

I ask this because I'm in love with the 954 'Blade and I'm thinking of buying one to add to my 1994 RR-R
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Re: Are 929 and 954's a bag of trouble

To be honest, the trouble with blades are that they seem ( in the UK ) to be owned by a lot of mid life crisis motorcycle enthusiasts who like to crash them on track days, I suspect a lot of the late 90's and early 00's blades are like this and were owned by these people.

I don't think its the blades that are the problem but the original owners, not looking nor having the capabilities to do anything other than bolt on crap and tinker in the wrong way.
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The 929 was introduced in 2000 and the 954 in 2002, we are talking about vehicles that are at the very least 14 years old....my 929 is 16 years old so of course there are going to be issues.....I would say that any car(cage) or motorcycle of that age will need repair from time to time, I have a handy brother that loves to wrench so repairs are seamless for me......the reward for these bikes outweighs the risk....imho
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Carby's couldn't be more simple, an engine and a robust ignitor unit. Throw in a few, interchangeable relays and that's it. Then the R1 upset Honda's applecart and they tried to play catch-up with very little development time between successive models. Honda got complacent and have never quite caught up with the opposition.
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I bought a 954 new in 2002. It only has 21,000 miles (I've had 3 bikes for most of the last 14 years and rode all of them kinda equally), but the 954 hasn't given me any trouble in all those years. All my friends remark about how it still looks new when I take it on rides. The only problem was that it used to go through batteries every couple of years, but buying battery tender has cured that.
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...we are talking about vehicles that are at the very least 14 years old........I would say that any car(cage) or motorcycle of that age will need repair from time to time...


Well said; also agree with the other comment about these bikes being thrashed and crashed (on the track AND on the street) by previous owners.

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The 929 was introduced in 2000 and the 954 in 2002, we are talking about vehicles that are at the very least 14 years old....my 929 is 16 years old so of course there are going to be issues.....I would say that any car(cage) or motorcycle of that age will need repair from time to time, I have a handy brother that loves to wrench so repairs are seamless for me......the reward for these bikes outweighs the risk....imho
I also agree with Ox on this, as I am going through exactly that on my one of my cages, just getting long in the tooth. Fortunately, I have had a pretty much problem free experience with my 954, but I suspect being garage kept in a very dry climate has helped keep corrosion to a minimum. Also, with 35,000 miles it hasn't been ridden every day for 16 1/2 years with 342,000 miles on it like the car. That said, after 30 years of building race planes and maintaining aircraft I think I'll continue my "Mid life crisis" and go find some crap to bolt on to my 954, and maybe learn something from the set in their 20's, lord knows they have so much to teach...

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I do believe there is some sense in trying to buy a bike with its original exhaust, uncut rear number plate hanger and original indicators, usually points towards a mature slightly more sensible owner. Problem is that these bike are always the most expensive!
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Re: Are 929 and 954's a bag of trouble

Plus, the very nature of forums is that people post about problems, which gives the impression that any bike, car etc is problematic.
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The 929 was introduced in 2000 and the 954 in 2002, we are talking about vehicles that are at the very least 14 years old.
The whole point of Gunks post is that he is comparing them to vehicles that are even older!
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I do believe there is some sense in trying to buy a bike with its original exhaust, uncut rear number plate hanger and original indicators, usually points towards a mature slightly more sensible owner. Problem is that these bike are always the most expensive!
I agree, my philosophy when looking at used cars as well. I look for stock, as opposed to wheels tires, cold air intakes, lowering and all those H.P. adding decals.

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Plus, the very nature of forums is that people post about problems, which gives the impression that any bike, car etc is problematic.
True.

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My 929 has 52k on the clocks, only had a stator go, no other issues, to be fair no bike i've ever owned has had anything major go though.
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Plus, the very nature of forums is that people post about problems, which gives the impression that any bike, car etc is problematic.
I agree, but there seems to be far more threads about problems with the later bikes.
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You'll struggle, nay find it impossible to buy a more reliable bike from 2002/3 i think, and if in white/blue, no better looking. A mate has put way over 100k on 929/954's, he personally prefers the 929, but he's not Baba san either.
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I agree, but there seems to be far more threads about problems with the later bikes.
But that's probably because there's more to go wrong. My carb bike has gravity-fed fuel (no pump to go wrong), carbs (no injection system to go wrong), no factory immobiliser (no HISS to go wrong), etc, etc...
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