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F**king soft link!!!!

Went and did it, tightened down too hard and cracked one of the rivet heads, the other looks fine.

Dare I ride it before the replacement arrives in the post???

Tie wire in the same way ppl who use clip links do???

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Re: F**king soft link!!!!

Depends on how bad its cracked. A clip style master link will work just fine too. My Hayabusa dragbike has a clip style master link as do most other dragbikes that launch much harder than street bikes. Most dragbikes use a clip style with a layer of silicone over the master link.

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Depends on how bad its cracked. A clip style master link will work just fine too. My Hayabusa dragbike has a clip style master link as do most other dragbikes that launch much harder than street bikes. Most dragbikes use a clip style with a layer of silicone over the master link.
such a pain to attach, how do we know when enough is enough flairing?!

Or, are there pro tools that accurately stop once the pin is splayed to optimum?

I was going to go clip style but read it's dodgy on 1tr sport bikes

Pretty much 1/4 of it is crushed off btw
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such a pain to attach, how do we know when enough is enough flairing?!

Or, are there pro tools that accurately stop once the pin is splayed to optimum?
With my chain rivet tool you stop when the rivet tool sits flush on the pin.

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With my chain rivet tool you stop when the rivet tool sits flush on the pin.
on mine it's silver ball bearing, and extremely difficult time see anything happening. I think I'll just get someone to put it in for me when I get the replacement
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With my chain rivet tool you stop when the rivet tool sits flush on the pin.
Would Aradite be a good option for the clip type link mate? I find that stuff fantastic for most sticking related stuff.

Or should I be using a specific type of silicone?
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Re: F**king soft link!!!!

With a pair of machinist dial calipers, measure the diameter of the factory installed pins. Then "smash" the master link pin to that diameter.
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With a pair of machinist dial calipers, measure the diameter of the factory installed pins. Then "smash" the master link pin to that diameter.
Smash? Punch and hammer you mean?
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Smash? Punch and hammer you mean?
I wouldnt use a punch but I would use a ball peen hammer. With a nice solid heavy block of something against the back side of the chain. Thats what ball peen hammers were made for "peening pins" or "mushrooming" the ends of pins so they dont come out. I figure someone will chime in and say "dont do this". But I've done it, I've seen it done, and it works. Mainly because I didnt want to spend $70 on a chain tool that I was only going to use once every 4 or 5 years and everyone else would want to borrow it, so they could save money.
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With a pair of machinist dial calipers, measure the diameter of the factory installed pins. Then "smash" the master link pin to that diameter.
This is shown in the manual, diameter of the staked area should be 5.50-5.80 mm for DID and 5.45-5.85 mm for RK master links.

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Re: F**king soft link!!!!

Get a DID tool, you can't really fail. I've seen loads effed with a hammer and counterpunch, slip and you will feck the plate.
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Get a DID tool, you can't really fail. I've seen loads effed with a hammer and counterpunch, slip and you will feck the plate.
I have a chain tool, just didn't know when enough is enough tightening to flare the pins down and of course the inevitable happened
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Flare a little, back off and check, repeat as necessary, some tools are better than others, i found the DID ones best.
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Re: F**king soft link!!!!

Managed to get one locally, miracle in Dublin!

Yeah, I had been doing that but just was in the mind of 'Is that far enough?'

I think digital measures are in order this time, what would be considered acceptable flare distance? Around 2mm? I can't find any tolerance ranges on JT site. I'll prob balls this one up also!

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Get a DID tool, you can't really fail. I've seen loads effed with a hammer and counterpunch, slip and you will feck the plate.
I didnt say "with a 10lb sledge" or "with all the fury of Thor" lol.
It takes about 40 to 60 light taps to smash it. I've seem people also break the chain tool tightening it too tight. You know how men are, we want to tighten the crapola out of everything.
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