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So my '00 929 is new to me but not the road, 30K on the clock. So what do y'all recommend running for oil?
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is this a track bike, a daily rider or both?

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Re: Oil Oil Oil

The brand isn't as important as just changing it religiously at max 5000 miles.
Personally I change mine right at 3000. Full synthetic for me. Mobil 1 4T, Honda HP4S, Castrol the last time cause it was on sale for $9/qt.
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Re: Oil Oil Oil

i change my oil every 3-3500 miles, filter every other time.

motul 5100 semi synthetic. 10w40

Motul 5100 Ester/Synthetic Engine Oil - Motorcycle Superstore

street use only but as mentioned whats most important is keep it fresh. i can feel a difference in my 954's shifting when i change it at 3k, if i can feel a difference in the gear box's performance i know the oil is doing a better job of protecting.

as an added bonus, it smells like bananas.

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Re: Oil Oil Oil

Daily rider only. I agree frequency is more important than type or brand. And most importantly...who doesn't loves the smell of bananas? Thanks for the input gentlemen.
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Re: Oil Oil Oil

Any of the top brands will do the job, whatever is best priced at the time
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Re: Oil Oil Oil

My 04 CBR1k has recently broke 40 thousand miles. Is there anything different I should be doing considering the bike is high mileage? I have always ran Mobil1 10w40 with no issues changed every 3000. A moto mechanic suggested adding Lucas oil stabilizer and using semi syn, not full syn. I live in the desert where its very disty and summers can easily break 120 degrees. What do you guys think? Any good or bad experiences using lucas oil stabilizer?


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Re: Oil Oil Oil

Is 40,000 mile high mileage? Way back when there was a CBR600F2 that had over 200,000 miles and still running. The odometer rolled over twice. He didn't do anything special, just changed the oil on a regular basis with a new filter.

I remember reading an article on Bob is the Oil Guy where several oil additives were tested including that from Lucas Oil. The first test was in in a testbed gearbox and they found that the oil would start to foam with the additives in it. What has gears in it? An oil pump does, as does cams and in a motorcycle, the transmission.

The synthetic is going to have better high temp properties than regular oil and will take a higher temp before starting to burn off or breakdown.

I've never seen the advantage of a semi-synthetic. So you don't get the full properties of a synthetic. So if you don't trust conventional oil to do the job, why would a semi-synthetic handle it as it is comprised of conventional and synthetic. I believe semi-synthetic typically contains no more than 30% of synthetic oil.
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Re: Oil Oil Oil

Rotella T6 5W-40 is my preferred oil of choice. It's a full synthetic and its only $20 at wal-mart for a gallon. Has been reviewed in many motorcycles on forums and youtube. It is solid oil and cheap so I can change my oil more often.
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929 requires API grade SE, Sf or SG, SAE 10W40. This oil LUBETECH SUPER 4T SEMI SYNTHETIC 10W40 MOTORCYCLE 4 STROKE ENGINE OIL 5 LTR | eBay exceeds that, there is no need to buy the brand stuff, expensive is not necessarily better, and the reason oil companies sh!t pound notes. If you think not, then google this oil, used by everyone, from track days to TVR high performance cars etc

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Honda recommend a semi-synthetic, you'll find the gear change is better with semi-synthetic

I use Shell Advance 10w40, it's not expensive
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Rotella T6 5W-40 is my preferred oil of choice. It's a full synthetic and its only $20 at wal-mart for a gallon. Has been reviewed in many motorcycles on forums and youtube. It is solid oil and cheap so I can change my oil more often.
I've had a thought time finding the specific Rotella, I don't remember the color of the cap as I think they made a few changes. There's a guy over on cbrforums that's chasing down 300kmiles on a daily driver and Trackday F4i and he swears by the stuff. I've since either use that or Supertech (WalMart brand) when I change it myself.

I have in the past mixed my own semi-synth at about 50-60% synth, with the Natural just being a cost savings and it's perfectly fine. The beads of the synthetic oil are thinner and work in better. While the natural coats and work well in older rings.
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Honda recommend a semi-synthetic, you'll find the gear change is better with semi-synthetic

I use Shell Advance 10w40, it's not expensive
I've found the synthetic is better and around the time it needs to be replaced the shifting will become a little notchy, but fresh synthetic had a nice smooth gear change.
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Honda recommend a semi-synthetic, you'll find the gear change is better with semi-synthetic

I use Shell Advance 10w40, it's not expensive
I've found the synthetic is better and around the time it needs to be replaced the shifting will become a little notchy, but fresh synthetic had a nice smooth gear change.
I've always wondered if that was poor filtration.
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Re: Oil Oil Oil

No, oil does breakdown as well as get contaminated. An oil filter doesn't catch 100%. So what the oil filter cannot catch stays with the oil. In a motorcycle you also have a transmission. How long does synthetic fluids in a transmission last or oil in a axle? In an axle they last a longtime because they don't see the heat an engine does nor the contaminants. A transmission sees heat as well, but not the contaminants an engine will.

One of my cars, when it is time to change the trans fluid, the shifting starts to become notchy. This is with a synthetic manual transmission fluid. It gets changed around every 20k whereas the manufacturer says 30k.

A motorcycle puts a lot of strain on the oil as it needs to wear many hats. In cars you don't have the motor oil working in a clutch nor a transmission. Motorcycles also have a smaller cooling system than a car; which is why you see the temp gauge go up when stopped in a motorcycle and not so much in a car. So the oil in a motorcycle will see higher temps, used moe heavily as around 4l of oil covers the engine, clutch and transmission. In cars you see some gears like the oil pump and maybe the cams shaft, but in a motorcycle you have a chain and gears on the cam shafts plus the transmission.
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