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bike missed first service- how bad is this?

I guess this is quite a general qn., so apologies if this belongs elsewhere.

I'm looking at a used 954, 9 mths. old, with 1600 miles on the clock. It's in perfect condition-only thing is that it has never had it's 1st 600 mile service. I don't know why the guy never got it done, it's been well looked after otherwise.

Anyway, I've read some posts on here on break in procedure, and obviously this bike has had a less than ideal break in , but do any of you who have knowledge of this kind of thing know if the bike should be steered clear of altogether or not?

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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

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I guess this is quite a general qn., so apologies if this belongs elsewhere.

I'm looking at a used 954, 9 mths. old, with 1600 miles on the clock. It's in perfect condition-only thing is that it has never had it's 1st 600 mile service. I don't know why the guy never got it done, it's been well looked after otherwise.

Anyway, I've read some posts on here on break in procedure, and obviously this bike has had a less than ideal break in , but do any of you who have knowledge of this kind of thing know if the bike should be steered clear of altogether or not?

TIA, mu
If you want it, buy it after the owner has the dealer do the 600 mile service and has verified the warranty can still be in force.
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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

It is a Honda. Change the oil immediately, inspect the fluids, and check torque settings on the major stuff all the way around the bike. It should be fine as long as the prior owner wasn't a stunna.
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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

It should be fine. You don't have to have the dealer do the service to keep the waranty in effect. You can do it yourself. I would change the oil and look everything over. The owners manual tells you everything you need to check.
That said, you could ask the owner to have the service done.

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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

Thx for feedback so far - much appreciated.

The warranty issue isn't so important to me, and I can get the first service done by the garage that sold it.

My main concern/question is about potential long term damage to the engine due to missing the oil/filter change at 600 miles.
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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

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Thx for feedback so far - much appreciated.

The warranty issue isn't so important to me, and I can get the first service done by the garage that sold it.

My main concern/question is about potential long term damage to the engine due to missing the oil/filter change at 600 miles.

You're going to get a lot of different opinions on the issue of oil change frequency....

I, personally, wouldn't worry about the bike missing the first service.

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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

While in my opinion the first oil change is most important, I doubt it will hurt the long term durability. Use this as a bargaining tool to buy the bike, get it home, and immediately change the oil and filter. Only use a good filter BTW, Honda brand filters and Purolator are good, I like K&N's too.

BTW, if you change the oil the first time, don't be alarmed if the oil comes out looking like bassboat metallic paint from suspended metal particles. That's normal for break in oil.



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It should be fine. You don't have to have the dealer do the service to keep the waranty in effect. You can do it yourself. I would change the oil and look everything over. The owners manual tells you everything you need to check.
That said, you could ask the owner to have the service done.

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The issue is not whether the dealer performs the service. Its the fact that there was no service done. This needs to be reconciled with the warranty requirements. I'm not sure how/if the warranty would be impacted by it.
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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

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Thx for feedback so far - much appreciated.

The warranty issue isn't so important to me, and I can get the first service done by the garage that sold it.

My main concern/question is about potential long term damage to the engine due to missing the oil/filter change at 600 miles.
HE should pay for the service, that was more my point since it has been his bike up till the time he sells it. I'd make it a requirment of the sale. Thats just me though
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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

think he should change the oil, ride it for 500-1000 miles than change it again to be on the safe side? or would that be unnessacary
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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

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I guess this is quite a general qn., so apologies if this belongs elsewhere.

I'm looking at a used 954, 9 mths. old, with 1600 miles on the clock. It's in perfect condition-only thing is that it has never had it's 1st 600 mile service. I don't know why the guy never got it done, it's been well looked after otherwise.

Anyway, I've read some posts on here on break in procedure, and obviously this bike has had a less than ideal break in , but do any of you who have knowledge of this kind of thing know if the bike should be steered clear of altogether or not?

TIA, mu
My bike hasnt seen a service in 17k miles and is still running as strong as the day i bought it

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My bike hasnt seen a service in 17k miles and is still running as strong as the day i bought it
um, why? please tell me that DOESNT include a oil change
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Re: bike missed first service- how bad is this?

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The issue is not whether the dealer performs the service. Its the fact that there was no service done. This needs to be reconciled with the warranty requirements. I'm not sure how/if the warranty would be impacted by it.
how on earth would Honda know whether or not he had done the service in his own garage?

As others have said, change the oil and don't worry about it. I would insist that he pay for the dealer to do the service (especially since you are supposed to check the valves at 600, no?), and also to knock a little money off the price, but otherwise, I doubt there has been any damage. My bigger concern would be whether he also ignored the rev guidelines during break-in.
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(especially since you are supposed to check the valves at 600, no?),
I'm thinking the manual says to do the first valve check at 16K miles
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