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Re: Michelen Pilot Sport win [i]BIKE[/i] comparo

In this month's issue of BIKE (about the greatest monthly collection of motojournalism in the world IMO), the OEM Michelen Pilot Sport won a five way (or was it six...) shootout among sporting rubber contestants.

Yes, the tests were at least somewhat subjective in that they are the findings of a lone tester, but they did attempt to make it as empirical as possible by measuring tire temps, lap times, and emergency braking distances. They also considered apparent wear at the end of each session.

Very compelling was that BIKE's subject tester is known for disliking Michelen motorcycles tires, having recently suffered a crash (or some other unstated mishap) while riding a Michelen-shod bike. It was a single-blind test in which he didn't know from one tire to the other what he was riding on, but he scored the Pilot Sports best.

I know there are some anti-Michelen guys here on our beloved board, but I've liked my Pilot Sports from the first time I experienced them on my new 954. I just thought I'd pass along the intel as I found it interesting...
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Re: Michelen Pilot Sport win [i]BIKE[/i] comparo

I hear trackho running this way...
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Interesting....any possibility that they have an online site so we can view their findings??
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Re: Michelen Pilot Sport win [i]BIKE[/i] comparo

Unfortunately, no.
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Oh well, thanks Chain.
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HondaGal : Oh well, thanks Chain. *
You're welcome HG.

Hey, you could always go to Barnes and Noble to shell out the eight bucks ( ! ) for the mag to see it all.

Man, I have GOT to get with the US importers that Baketech turned me onto and subscribe to the doggone magazine already!



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Re: Michelen Pilot Sport win [i]BIKE[/i] comparo

Blaine at swmototire.com swears by them and insists that they are the best road-tire out there. Many people swear by them, saying that once they heat up, they're glue. Unfortunately, I think few of us properly warm up a tire on the street and that's probably the reason most of us have gone to the Sportecs or what-not. I sh!t-canned my Pilots a week after I almost low-sided on them.
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Re: Michelen Pilot Sport win [i]BIKE[/i] comparo

I'll get around to purchasing the mag eventually but while I'm here at work, I wouldn't mind some more details. BTW, almost all reviews I have read have placed the Pilots at (or near) the top.

Under what conditions were they tested? Was it hot, sunny track? Cold? Rainy?

As far as Pilot haters go... I have always had Pilots and they are great tires. However, they do have characteristics which make them less than optimal for me; long warm-up periods and all-or-nothing grip. Were those two characteristics mentioned?

How were the other tires ranked? Diablos? M1's?

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nomad : How were the other tires ranked? *Diablos? *M1's?
Shoot bro, I can't really recall where the other tires lined up.

One thing I do remember though was this: the article was suggestive that the differences between 'worst' and 'best' wasn't terribly large. I got the feeling that you pretty much can't really buy a BAD top shelf sporting tire from a reputable manufacturer these days. Folks that say you can are a little biased and one brand loyal IMO -or- are die hard track folk who might acutally be able to wring out the differences.

But again, this was a sporting street tire report. Another similar test of DOT legal racing rubber is coming in the next month or two.
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Chain : I got the feeling that you pretty much can't really buy a BAD top shelf sporting tire from a reputable manufacturer these days.
I agree. *Motorcycle tire development has come so far that probably any of those available today would work. *Since confidence in your tires is such a big part of how well you might ride, it's important to find a tire that you trust, regardless of the manufacturer. *I'm hoping the Diablo fits the bill because I like the look and feel of it so far.



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You're killin' me with suspense! I'll pick it up tonight.

(Ok maybe not 'killing' but 'maiming me with suspense' for sure.)

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nomad : ...they are great tires. *However, they do have characteristics which make them less than optimal for me; long warm-up periods and all-or-nothing grip.
Yep, I agree with that Pilots assessment
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Re: Michelen Pilot Sport win [i]BIKE[/i] comparo

I originally hated the Pilot Sports that came with my 954. They felt worse than the Dunlop 207's I started on and were no comparison to the M1's I have on my other bike. Of course this was in 40F weather and I would only ride for 45 min to an hour before I had to warm up. Just last night with the temp around 78 I was thinking 'man these tires grip pretty well' I rode with some friends after work in our favorite set of twisties and really felt confident. I had to adjust my line for debris and once because oncoming traffic wasn't going to tolerate my upper torso in their lane and I really liked the tires. I think I was too soon to judge them but will probably have M1's on the bike next year.
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Re: Michelen Pilot Sport win [i]BIKE[/i] comparo

I like the Pilots, and truth be told, I haven't tried another brand. But I do find them to be a little 'greasy' when cold.

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