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HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

I have an '03 954 that has had the M.D. Wright LED integrator installed on the rear taillight.Everything went fine,all lights flash/function normally.Today i attempted to install some front LED flushmounts from www.thesmithboys.com.Very fast flash rate.I then tried a set of "normal" flushmounts with the same result.The LED's have an apparent resistance of .500 M ohms.Although the meter fluctuated,this was the average.The "regular" flushmounts have an apparent resistance of 1 ohm.Try as i may i could not get an accurate reading of the factory turn signal filament.I'm in a mess here. I need to find the resistance of the factory filament,and then somehow get the flushmount resistance to match.UGH!Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

It's a little tricky because the resistance of the incandescent filament changes as it heats up. You could probably find and add a resistive load that would work but how about a solid state flasher like the one at Libertek? A bit spendy, but you set the flash rate and never worry about the resistive load again.
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

Or just go to Radio Shack and pick up some resistors like Flasher2001 (and I) did.

Pics of mine: Pic 1 Pic 2

Details on Flasher's site: http://www.flasher2001.com/shortstalks.htm (Wiring diagram at the bottom right.)
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

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Or just go to Radio Shack and pick up some resistors like Flasher2001 (and I) did.

Pics of mine: Pic 1 Pic 2

Details on Flasher's site: http://www.flasher2001.com/shortstalks.htm (Wiring diagram at the bottom right.)
Hey Conq, Are you getting any heat from those? I just fitted mine with a single 10ohm/10watt resistor. The rate blinks great but they do start to heat up a bit if the flasher is on for a while. I was able to mount them whereas they are not touching anything, but it would be more assuring to get the heat down.

I'm thinking of adding another 10ohm/10watt resistor or trying to find a 10ohm/20watt resistor as I'm told this will decrease the heat.

Update: Just read the link Conq, looks like I'm heading to the shack for a 50ohm/10watt resistor.

Thanks!

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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

Yours will vary, as mine did, depending on the signals you are using. Mine got a little warm, but the signal doesn't stay on for long, so it wasn't a problem. I don't remember what my total resistance was, but it was over twice as much as flasher2001 needed I think.
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

You hook up the resistor in parallel?I tried that and it actually decreased my resistance.I thought it went in line with the positive wire.And what if i get too much resistance,will i burn something up? What if i leave it the way it is,will i burn the flasher up? (The flasher relay is integrated into the combination meter on the 954.)UUUGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!! This is driving me mad!!!!!!!!
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

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You hook up the resistor in parallel?
Yes
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

Easy, get a 2 wire, non-load resistant, flasher relay and wire it in. It blinks the same rate if you have 20bulbs or 1led.

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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

How can i wire in another relay?The 954 relay is built into the circuit board inside the instrument cluster.
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By the way guys,i sincerely appreciate all of your suggestions.I apoligize for being ignorant.
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

Success!!!! After trying several different resistors,i landed upon a 10 ohm 25 watt resistor.Bingo!Correct flash rate.It has to flash a little while to even get warm,so i think i've hit it right.Time will tell i guess.Thanks for all the input guys.
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Success!!!! After trying several different resistors,i landed upon a 10 ohm 25 watt resistor.Bingo!Correct flash rate.It has to flash a little while to even get warm,so i think i've hit it right.Time will tell i guess.Thanks for all the input guys.
Now you'll have to post pics of the final product.

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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

yeah some pics of it would be nice (inlcude the wiring cause I'm looking to change my flush mounts inthe front. came with ugly carbon fiber ones when I bought the bike and I got these sweet looking red/clear ones but they will flash fast when I put them on so I haven't put them on yet till I figure out how to fix it)

Also there are products you can buy such as the SmartEqualizer that fix the problem (I want to keep mine as running lights and blinkers so that won't do the running lights but I've been talking to a guy from Kisan about their signalMinder and it adds running light capabilities to single filament lights btu he has to get back to me on if it fixes fast flash problems. oh yeah its main feature is to shut your blinkers off automatically. www.kisantech.com to check it out).
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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

Thanks again for all of your helpful suggestions.Here is a picture of the "finished product".The turnsignals are amber LED units with a clear lens and four mini LED's inside.I ordered them from www.thesmithboys.com .They required NO body modifications.I wired a 10 ohm 25 watt resistor in paralell to get the correct flash rate.

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Re: HELP! Turn Signal Flash Rate....

I found this pretty sure for the price it would save some people some time.Equalizers

This is most likely the same thing you came up with any how since all you have to do is increase path resistance but it is packaged a bit differently.

Not to mention the price is the best i have seen thus far.

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