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post #1 of 21 Old 06-15-2004, 10:08 PM Thread Starter
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Racing and the CBR 929

I've been wondering something as of late that has been on my mind for awhile. Was the 929 ever raced professionally? I know that back in 2001, AMA Superbike restrictions only allowed 1000cc twins and 750 inline fours so, the 929 could not race in this class. However, was it raced professionally abroad? Related to this question, why then would the Japanese make a liter bike during the 929 era, given that it's technically not a race replica?
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

Honda Australia raced and WON the production superbike series (the biggest and main series in oz) in 2000 on a 929 with Adam Furgesson, beating Kev Curtain on the R1. Very under rated the bike for its time the 929.
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

They ran them in Formula Extreme.
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

While it didn't win, the 929 also had a great showing at the IoM. It was also raced in Canada.

Honda never focused on the 929 so it was never brought up to the level of the RC on the world racing scene. It's obviously not a bad bike to race, and some have ridden them to varying levels of success on the club level across the country.




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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

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They ran them in Formula Extreme.
Yup. I believe Erion Racing won with the 929, although I think it was bored out a bit. The bike did well until the GSXR came into play.
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

Yep, formula extreme was the only class for it in the US, due to the 750cc restriction on inline 4's. The RC51 was Honda's superbike machine. Now that the rules allow 1000's we get the 1000RR, and like the RC51, it is OVERengineered as a streetbike so it can handle the 200+ hp that Miguel's, Zempke's and Ben's bikes are putting out. That's why it weighs more than the zuki, yam, and kaw. Compare the radiators if you don't think so.
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

Kurtis Roberts won the Formula Extreme championship the year the 929 came out.
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Yup, he won all but one race on it. Just like miguel did with my last bike (f3).ONly miguel lost to his teammate. I sure can pick'em...
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

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Yup, he won all but one race on it. Just like miguel did with my last bike (f3).ONly miguel lost to his teammate. I sure can pick'em...
Actually, there were 2 races Kurtis didn't win in 2000 for FX.
The final race (Willow Springs) he didn't even enter because he already wrapped up the title at Pikes Peak (he finished 2nd there to Grant Lopez).

Kurtis' bike won the final race at Willow Springs with Zemke onboard.

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I stand corrected.
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

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Yep, formula extreme was the only class for it in the US, due to the 750cc restriction on inline 4's. The RC51 was Honda's superbike machine. Now that the rules allow 1000's we get the 1000RR, and like the RC51, it is OVERengineered as a streetbike so it can handle the 200+ hp that Miguel's, Zempke's and Ben's bikes are putting out. That's why it weighs more than the zuki, yam, and kaw. Compare the radiators if you don't think so.
Slowpoke. I just want to understand this because it is interesting to me. So you are saying RC51 (and 1000RR?) are heavier than the rest because they installed parts that were designed to withstand the 200+ hp versions?
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Slowpoke. I just want to understand this because it is interesting to me. So you are saying RC51 (and 1000RR?) are heavier than the rest because they installed parts that were designed to withstand the 200+ hp versions?
From a recent edition of Two Wheels
'Honda approached the SP1 and subsequent SP2 from a different direction than Ducati when it came to making a homologation special form which to build its Superbike racer. Where Ducati went for high dollar, limited run specials (eg, the SPS models) Honda created one base model that would do road and race duties. The compromise was that the road going SP we could buy was over engineered in essential areas such as the engine's bottom end and the chassis. It made it much heavier than it needed to be, TO bring the weight down for racing a massively expensive race kit was needed - and this was the only way to make the Honda competitive'....
I guess the theory is you have to build up the components that your racing formula of choice wont let you change and then you can skimp to an extent on the bits that you can replace with unobtanium.....
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From a recent edition of Two Wheels
'Honda approached the SP1 and subsequent SP2 from a different direction than Ducati when it came to making a homologation special form which to build its Superbike racer. Where Ducati went for high dollar, limited run specials (eg, the SPS models) Honda created one base model that would do road and race duties. The compromise was that the road going SP we could buy was over engineered in essential areas such as the engine's bottom end and the chassis. It made it much heavier than it needed to be, TO bring the weight down for racing a massively expensive race kit was needed - and this was the only way to make the Honda competitive'....
I guess the theory is you have to build up the components that your racing formula of choice wont let you change and then you can skimp to an extent on the bits that you can replace with unobtanium.....
Cool. I like that! What about the 1000RR, or any other late model Honda for that matter, same idea?
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Re: Racing and the CBR 929

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Slowpoke. I just want to understand this because it is interesting to me. So you are saying RC51 (and 1000RR?) are heavier than the rest because they installed parts that were designed to withstand the 200+ hp versions?
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Now that the rules allow 1000's we get the 1000RR, and like the RC51, it is OVERengineered as a streetbike so it can handle the 200+ hp that Miguel's, Zempke's and Ben's bikes are putting out. That's why it weighs more than the zuki, yam, and kaw. Compare the radiators if you don't think so.
Sorry, I have to disadgree here. By your explanation, you make it seem as though the other manufacturers' bikes are not designed to handle 200+ Hp.
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