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Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

What's the best way to torque the steering stem nut without bending/breaking the soft aluminum pin? Also, what bolts should I use the blue loctite on?

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Re: Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

Well I torqued the steering stem nut to 76ftlbs and what do you know, I bent the pin!!

Also the damper seems to move up and down (front to back) I have the bolt going into the sleeve then the metal washer and finally the teflon spacer.
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Re: Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

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Also the damper seems to move up and down (front to back) I have the bolt going into the sleeve then the metal washer and finally the teflon spacer.
It's supposed to swivel/roll, if that's what you mean.
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Re: Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

I ended up using a hardened sheared-off drill bit in place of the factory pin. Even then I wasn't happy with that mounting arrangement. They should've included a little lip, or at least a better support, in the mounting bracket.

The movement you're describing is normal.
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It's supposed to swivel/roll, if that's what you mean.
Just the bracket assy (in the centre) moves up and down.
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I ended up using a hardened sheared-off drill bit in place of the factory pin. Even then I wasn't happy with that mounting arrangement. They should've included a little lip, or at least a better support, in the mounting bracket.

The movement you're describing is normal.
Seems like a poor design, how do the expect you to keep the bracket straight when your using 76ftlbs of torque!! I'm sure the next time I take it off and retighten it the pin will snap.

Seems to be quite a bit of movement though!!
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Re: Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

Ooook, wait a sec. What's moving, exactly?

The bracket that mounts underneath the stem nut?

The bracket that attaches to the frame through the tank?

The clamp that holds the damper to the other two?

The damper itself?
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Ooook, wait a sec. What's moving, exactly?

The bracket that mounts underneath the stem nut?

The bracket that attaches to the frame through the tank?

The clamp that holds the damper to the other two? This one

The damper itself?
When you look from the side you can see light passing through the bigger part of the damper (closest to the tank)
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Re: Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

OK. So it's the metal piece that clamps around the damper itself.

Now, once you've tightened the two allen screws that hold the damper in the clamp, does the damper still move, or does the entire set (damper and clamp) move as one?

The space is normal, by the way: http://www.kyleusa.com/catalog/ohlin...er_1224435.htm
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OK. So it's the metal piece that clamps around the damper itself.

Now, once you've tightened the two allen screws that hold the damper in the clamp, does the damper still move, or does the entire set (damper and clamp) move as one?

The space is normal, by the way: http://www.kyleusa.com/catalog/ohlin...er_1224435.htm
Thanks, yes the entrie set damper/clamp move up and down together.
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Thanks, yes the entrie set damper/clamp move up and down together.
Then it is the normal movement that Conq and I had mentioned, but just to be absolutely certain, make sure that the order in which you use your washers is correct, other than that, it's all good.
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This works for me every time....

Be sure to degrease all the contact parts. When placing the final nut smear a VERY small amount of grease on the bottom of the nut only and torque just to spec. This will keep the nut from dragging the Ohlins bracket out of position. Lead based antiseeze or assembly lube is good. Use VERY little. If there is any lube BELOW the bracket this won't work right.
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Seems like a poor design, how do the expect you to keep the bracket straight when your using 76ftlbs of torque!! I'm sure the next time I take it off and retighten it the pin will snap.

Seems to be quite a bit of movement though!!
Did you try to torque in thirds? 26ftlbs, 52ftlbs, 76ftlbs
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Re: Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

Freeplay is normal in the up and down direction When i take mine off and on i actually pul the bracket back towards me to give it some leverage, after several R/R the pin is still perfectly straight

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Re: Need a quick answer - Ohlins damper install, 954

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I ended up using a hardened sheared-off drill bit in place of the factory pin. Even then I wasn't happy with that mounting arrangement. They should've included a little lip, or at least a better support, in the mounting bracket.

The movement you're describing is normal.
I did the same thing with the drill bit. It doesn't bend a bit.
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