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Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

Ok need some advice . I am now at the point of the exhaust was modified and installed. Question. No valve installed didn't have room. What will that effect ? See attached pic.

Second question. I have a stock 929 fuel pump do I have to use this or can i put in a aftermaket 50 psi pump ? IS that the correct pressure ? Or should i spend the extra money to install the stck one in a fuel cell ?

Fuel mapping an issue after changing the exhaust ?

Wiring question. What connections fron the harrness will i need to make it run ? Keyswitch , starter button.

Any advice would help.

At least I bought a 929 heard this engine was was top notch.

Thanks for anyone helping me out finshing this up.

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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

Yes, you should get it mapped if you want it to run at its best.

Do you think it's a good idea to have the engine head pointed at the back of your head like that?
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Ok need some advice . I am now at the point of the exhaust was modified and installed. Question. No valve installed didn't have room. What will that effect ? See attached pic.

Second question. I have a stock 929 fuel pump do I have to use this or can i put in a aftermaket 50 psi pump ? IS that the correct pressure ? Or should i spend the extra money to install the stck one in a fuel cell ?

Fuel mapping an issue after changing the exhaust ?

Wiring question. What connections fron the harrness will i need to make it run ? Keyswitch , starter button.

Any advice would help.

At least I bought a 929 heard this engine was was top notch.

Thanks for anyone helping me out finshing this up.

Ranman
That motor should be fine the 900RR was a great motor in a rail. I would deffinatly get a new map, fuel pump I`m not sure but I think the one from like a 94 small toyota car works fine, not sure wich one it was but we bought it at pepboys,we didn`t have to add an extra fuel regulator either. I would use the whole wiring harness the lights will work for you and the tail light and brake will too, the only thing you don`t need is the blinkers
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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

That looks like such a blast.

But if your going to use it in the sand, you may want some paddle tires in the rear, and some of those tires with a tall ridge in the middle of the tire. But I'm guessing your going to be running it on dirt.

Damn that looks fun.
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Ok need some advice . I am now at the point of the exhaust was modified and installed. Question. No valve installed didn't have room. What will that effect ? See attached pic.

Second question. I have a stock 929 fuel pump do I have to use this or can i put in a aftermaket 50 psi pump ? IS that the correct pressure ? Or should i spend the extra money to install the stck one in a fuel cell ?

Fuel mapping an issue after changing the exhaust ?

Wiring question. What connections fron the harrness will i need to make it run ? Keyswitch , starter button.

Any advice would help.

At least I bought a 929 heard this engine was was top notch.

Thanks for anyone helping me out finshing this up.

Ranman
since you gotta map it and stuff anyway get rid of that stock can and throw on any aftermarket thing, go with some cheap can cause not like its gonna matter but an Akro or Erion bolt on would be sweet. search ebay for a used pipe. but that thing is sweet, me and a friend wanted to take a motorcycle engine and build a go cart but never got to it, didn't have an engine anyway.

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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

Kick ass that looks like fun....


I'm with CBR929RE cop a new can for it
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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

Nice work...

These things are fun with 80hp mills....can't imagine how one will rip with the 929....

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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

Are you going to use the stock airbox?
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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

No the stock air box will not fit. Does anyone know of an aftermarket air filters. Maybe 4 sigle ones. K&N doesn't seem to have one. It needs a bottom plate to mount to the EFI.

bmc has something but can't quite figure out which one.

I still need to find a fuel pump that will work. and some of the switchs to start it up. Anyone guess which ones I'll need ? Keywitch yes, what else do you have a start button ?

Thanks

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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

There is a key switch, kill switch and start button. If you don't have the complete wiring harness including the CDI, get one.
The following are fuel specs for the 954, which should be the same as the 929:
Fuel pressure at idle: (1200 +/- 100 RPM) 50psi
Fuel flow: 6.4USoz. / 10 seconds.
Can't help you out on the filter front, you may have to fab up your own airbox around a BMC filter.
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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

Is there any whellie switch that I need to deactivate ? Kickstand switch ? Anti-thieft switch that would make this cause me to loose all my hair.

Wish i had a 929 to look at......

Thanks again for the help folks !!!

Randall
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Kick ass that looks like fun....


I'm with CBR929RE cop a new can for it
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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

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Is there any whellie switch that I need to deactivate ? Kickstand switch ? Anti-thieft switch that would make this cause me to loose all my hair.

Wish i had a 929 to look at......

Thanks again for the help folks !!!

Randall
If you cutting up a stock harness, yes you will have to jump the kickstand switch and probaly the clutch switch unless you integrate into your vehicle. Also, the bank angle sensor will need to be used, or figure a way to eliminate. On some race bikes, its hard to remove it, so people just open it up and fill it with silicone so it can't activate. But I'm thinking it would be a good think on a rail like that if you flipped it? Carbed motors just stop running, but I wouldnt want 20 gallons of fuel spraying from a high pressure fuel pump while on on my head strapped in. Do you have a wiring diagram from a 929 service manual? You could omit the stock keyswitch and starter switch and replace them with a toggle and push button.
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Re: Installing 01 929 in a sand rail ...need advace

Yep I did the harness for my 929 racebike. You need to short the clutch and kickstand sensor outputs. I too would keep the tip over sensor, just make sure you mount it at the right angle, ie the same as it is on the bike. You will also need a diode on the ignition circuit.

If you need a harness, PM me, I have the harness I did up for my racebike and don't need anymore.



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