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'01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

I'm gonna take it into a shop next week, but was curious if you guys might have an idea...

When I start the bike cold, it fires up, then conks out. If I give it some gas, then it'll stay running and warm up. During warm-up, there is a metallic clunking sound about once every 5 seconds. When the bike's up to temp though, no clunking. The bike seems to start & run fine when warm .

Also, the red MIL light blinks with the kickstand down, stays lit with the kickstand up, andthe FI indicator is on.

Any ideas? - is it ok to ride it to the shop? The noise during the warm-up period is a little disconcerting.

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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

I suspect the noise during warm up is the cam chain slapping around. If the high idle isn't working correctly the cam chain can do that.

If you can count the blinks (slow and fast) someone on here can look up the fault and give you an idea where to look. Of course the shop will do the same thing.
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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

I bet that clunk is comming from the bottom of the engine... Mine is doing the same thing and I havent really messed withit yet. Best I can tell it is comming from the HTEV valve being trown to one stop then back to center.
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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

The light blinks on for about 1/2 sec, then off for about 2 seconds, then repeats.
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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

Check the MIL codes for the fault:

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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

Pull in the clutch when you start the bike and see if the clunking disappears. Then release the clutch and see if comes back. Mine does the same thing but I am not sure of the cause except for the clutch plates. As far as the starting problem, I had a similar thing before I sync'd my starter valves and got a custom map for my Hindle full exhaust. Once that was done, the bike was like new again. Quick blip and the fast idle kicks in and boosts the revs to around 1500 and the when it hits 108 the idle begins dropping to 1250. If it doesn't kick into fast idle, there could be a problem with the waxing unit.

Can you say 6 in a ROW!!!!
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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

What an easy fix! It was the MAP sensor (connection was loose). Thanks for the ideas guys. And thanks Red for the link to the MIL info.

What's weird is that it exhibited the symptom of #7, but the problem was #1/2.

Anyway, she's back in business.
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I'm glad it was a cheap fix.

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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

bringin back an old ass thread but where is that map sensor at? i am having the sAME PROBLEM
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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

Under the gas tank, back side of airbox (top and right if sitting on bike).
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Re: '01 929: problem starting, noise at idle

I got the MAP sensor code too. Where all could the connections be loose? I checked the wires and plugs right by the right side of the air box.
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