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I have a 01 929. The motor keeps cranking but wont start. I have checked all conectors and fuses, no problem there. My red indicator light stays on butu doesnt blink any ideas?
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The first person always has to ask... Is the cut-off switch in the run position?

Now we've taken care of that, what have you done to the bike lately?

Did you ride it one day and then the next you were faced with this problem or did you make some repairs or do some maintenance?

Does the fuel pump spin up when the switch is turned on?

A little more information may be very helpful in diagnosing this problem.

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Re: starting

The fuel pump isnt starting up but the red light with the oil can lights up. When I power up. I havent done any maintance except an oil change. The oil level is good. Will the oil & red light come on if the fuel pump is bad, or im oil senser bad. Whe I diconnect the oil senser the lights go off! I have been beating my head against the wall for 3 days now
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The normal lights should function, even with a bad fuel pump. (Disclaimer: Assumption. Not known as fact)

Start simple:

Have you checked the fuses? If the fuel pump's fuse is blown, it won't work.
Is there gas in the tank? (Dumb question, but always worth checking)
Are all of the connections to the pump good and tight?

Make sure to cover all of the simple stuff before you get into anything too serious.
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to further go into one thing Pulski touched on. Make sure no wires and pinched anywhere around the tank/fuel pump, especially ground wires.

if you can't convince them, confuse them.
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Re: starting

Fuses, fuel pump relay, if the tank was taken off and put back on, double check the ground wire that gets slip onto the tab of the gas tank. If all of these items check out, it's time to start digging deeper into the wire harness (i.e. bank angle sensor).

Your bike will still start regardless of whether or not your oil light is on, this is only used as a warning to you if your oil pressure is low. By default, the oil light will be on (so you can verify the light and sensor are working correctly) until the bike is cranked and running, which then will turn off, assuming you have oil pressure. So until the bike starts, you can ignore it.
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Also, the light is on because there is no oil pressure on a non-running motor. Similar to why all the idiot lights come on in a non-running car. They're all on because the car is "on" but nothing is working right (until it is running).
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Have you got the bike running yet???
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Re: starting

Here is what happend. I started to ride and about 200 feet the bike died. I checked all the fuses under the seat, the tank is full. It seems like it is a fuel problem. All the lines are good! Is there a in line fuse I missed? Cant figure out whiy it just quit, wont even push start. Battery is good, cranks just wont start. I will go and chek all the sugestions that ive gotten tomorrow.
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Double check your fuel lines. I've had similar issues and the reason was the fuel line was pinched.
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Would that stop the pump from firing up when you turn the power on
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No the pump would still prime.

Must be an electrical problem. Have you had the tank off? Did you check the ground on the tank side? If the fuel pump is not priming, do you at least here a relay clicking (relay turning on fuel pump)?
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I'm hoping that someone with a bit more knowledge than myself answers concerning the Fuel Injection Honda uses answers. I have no idea how the relays and fuses are wired up here, but there has to be a way to actually check and diagnose the fuel pump.

Not only that, but have you considered the bank angle sensor. I don't know if your bike has been on it's side recently or not, but that could be a factor.
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Ok don't laugh but do you have a spare stock key you can try? These 929s have a chip in the key and if it dies it will not enable the firing system,happened to a buddy of mine and after changing out everything he could think of was told to try the spare key and it fired.Not syaing that is it but one more thing easy to rule out.
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I tried the seacong key no luck! I think the fuel pump is bad, it isnt kicking over when I put the keys in & the ground is good with no kinks in the lines
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