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RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

Anyone know how to convert the front 16" front wheel to a 17" cheap and safe.

well is what I am after is a either someone in the UK who could do it for me cheap or a dummy guide on how to?

I do a lot of riding and cost of the sports 16" tyres is getting on my nerves plus I have a punchure the other day and had to wait 48 hours till to get hold of a new tyre. I have seen bikes with the 17" conversion done and was wondering if it was easy or not.

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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

I believe a F3 wheel does the trick.......anyone?

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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

i got mine done with a CBR400RR-L front 17" rim. just gotta use back the 400's wheel bearings. but another thing to look out for are the rotors, the 919's rotors wont fit onto the 400's rim so i fixed the 400's rotors as well. runs perfectly well.

i have heard that the CBr600F3's front will fit perfectly, but i haven't came across anybody who had done it. only heard so far but not yet seen a live testimony.
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

Humm F3 you say. I take it I would have to get some spacers made up?

Might have a go at this one. any one know who can make spacers?
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

My first post, sorry it's a sad one...

I've just been royally ripped trying to put a 17" on my RRW Blade. I got it off ebay, from a guy who said he'd had it on his RRW.

First thing, after parting with 138, was I realised the bearings were smaller and wouldn't take the new Blade ones I'd got. So, I made up two 2mm washers and a new internal hub spacer to accomodate the smaller CBR600 bearings. Stripped and painted the wheel, fitted a nice 120/70/17 Pilot Power, only to find my Blade's discs don't fit.

All in this wheel has cost me 309, and it's useless. The seller was clearly lying through his teeth, though I'm sure he'll try to tell me he was using CBR600 discs and calipers next.

I'm seriously pissed off.
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

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My first post, sorry it's a sad one...

I've just been royally ripped trying to put a 17" on my RRW Blade. I got it off ebay, from a guy who said he'd had it on his RRW.

First thing, after parting with 138, was I realised the bearings were smaller and wouldn't take the new Blade ones I'd got. So, I made up two 2mm washers and a new internal hub spacer to accomodate the smaller CBR600 bearings. Stripped and painted the wheel, fitted a nice 120/70/17 Pilot Power, only to find my Blade's discs don't fit.

All in this wheel has cost me 309, and it's useless. The seller was clearly lying through his teeth, though I'm sure he'll try to tell me he was using CBR600 discs and calipers next.

I'm seriously pissed off.
gosh this is bad dude... i managed to get my 17" rim done for about GBP180 (rim + rotors + bearings). but dont worry, the callipers will definitely fit.
the rotors, u can try machining them cos i know the bolts have different placings which do not complement the rim.

anyway do u have an idea which model of the rim u bought from the buyer?
CBR600 F2/F3 ? CBR600 F2's have 3 spokes, whereas CBR600F3's have 6-spokes. good luck to u !
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

No mate, all the scumbag told me was it was off a "CBR600" and that he'd had it on his RRW.

He's since told me, on the phone, that his brother did all the work and he doesn't have a clue about any of it. I've been to a custom shop, and as best he can tell from all his special trade manuals and what-not is that the only way the bloke could have had the wheel on his RRW would have been with custom discs. The wheel will fit pre-98 Blades ok, but it's worthless for mine.

Anyway, your PM re your mate's RVF jobby sounds hopeful...please get back to me on that mate, it'll be more than helpful.
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

I looked into this for mine - RR-W and RR-X being the same bike. A VFR800 from wheel goes in, but care on the offset of the brake rotors - can't remember if you still use the Blade discs or the VFR ones, but I'm sure the VFR wheel fits. There is a CBR600 wheel that people use for earlier Blades but I think there was a change on the discs for the 98/99 Blade that mean you can't do the swap. Wish I could remember now, it was 4/5 years ago I thought of it!

Know any mates with Honda's and try a swap?!
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I looked into this for mine - RR-W and RR-X being the same bike. A VFR800 from wheel goes in, but care on the offset of the brake rotors - can't remember if you still use the Blade discs or the VFR ones, but I'm sure the VFR wheel fits. There is a CBR600 wheel that people use for earlier Blades but I think there was a change on the discs for the 98/99 Blade that mean you can't do the swap. Wish I could remember now, it was 4/5 years ago I thought of it!

Know any mates with Honda's and try a swap?!
From '98 the discs went to 310mm from 296mm, which is why it's so hard getting a wheel for RRW's onwards.
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

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I looked into this for mine - RR-W and RR-X being the same bike. A VFR800 from wheel goes in, but care on the offset of the brake rotors - can't remember if you still use the Blade discs or the VFR ones, but I'm sure the VFR wheel fits. There is a CBR600 wheel that people use for earlier Blades but I think there was a change on the discs for the 98/99 Blade that mean you can't do the swap. Wish I could remember now, it was 4/5 years ago I thought of it!

Know any mates with Honda's and try a swap?!
yes you are right, a VFR800 or VFR750 front wheel + discs will be a direct fit too. and the RR-W/X models comes with different disc offsets than the older models.. ( i compared the weight n its lighter than the pre-98 models of blades)
but i'm definitely sure that a RVF400's front rim and rotors will bolt right into the RRW, cos my buddy's 1998 RR-W had just gone thru that swap few weeks ago, and he's damn happy with it...

oh yes if there isn't enough braking power on the blade, then just get a 16mm brembo radial M/C n pop it in... give extra 50% braking power (the blade's stock unit is only 14mm)
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From '98 the discs went to 310mm from 296mm, which is why it's so hard getting a wheel for RRW's onwards.
actually come to think of it, if i were in your shoes, i'd take the rim to the dealer for aftermarket discs eg Braking/Galfer n ask them to get a disc that can fit the rim... problem solved... u get a sexy pair of discs n save the headache of getting the stock disc to mount it on...
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actually come to think of it, if i were in your shoes, i'd take the rim to the dealer for aftermarket discs eg Braking/Galfer n ask them to get a disc that can fit the rim... problem solved... u get a sexy pair of discs n save the headache of getting the stock disc to mount it on...
Only problem with that is a pair of those discs will cost me around £300, and my stock discs still have plenty of life left in them (over 5mm). I've already spent enough on this wheel, adding another £300 just to get a 17" front end isn't what I had originally planned.

You say the VFR800 wheel will go right in to an RRW, but what model? And will my discs transfer?

Thanks for the help guys, it's appreciated.

Oh yeah, I already tried a VFR750 wheel (RC30) and it didn't fit.
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

https://www.fireblades.org/forums/hon...onversion.html

anyway i have tried fitting on a VTR SP-1 front rim, it wont fit at all cos the SP-1 uses USD forks... the center hole is too big for the blade... unless i get the whole front forks, clamps, handles etc. btw, the SP-1 stock rims are very, very light compared to the fireblade. and also lighter than a CBR1000RR rim !
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Re: RRX 1999 Front wheel conversion?

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https://www.fireblades.org/forums/hon...onversion.html

anyway i have tried fitting on a VTR SP-1 front rim, it wont fit at all cos the SP-1 uses USD forks... the center hole is too big for the blade... unless i get the whole front forks, clamps, handles etc. btw, the SP-1 stock rims are very, very light compared to the fireblade. and also lighter than a CBR1000RR rim !
That links concerns the RRV model, which had the 296mm discs (CBR600-friendly). It's discs would go right onto the wheel I have. Starting to wish I'd bought an earlier model Blade, except they don't look as nice as the RRW.
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Only problem with that is a pair of those discs will cost me around 300, and my stock discs still have plenty of life left in them (over 5mm). I've already spent enough on this wheel, adding another 300 just to get a 17" front end isn't what I had originally planned.

You say the VFR800 wheel will go right in to an RRW, but what model? And will my discs transfer?

Thanks for the help guys, it's appreciated.

Oh yeah, I already tried a VFR750 wheel (RC30) and it didn't fit.
well you can sell ur stock discs at ebay to cover back some costs...

a VFR750 wheel that i have seen fit into a blade is the VFR750F 1996 model (RC36). havent seen a RC30 one though so no comments...
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