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1000RR Suspension

I need some help again. I plan on upgrading my fork springs to Ohlins. What other internal suspension pieces should I upgrade as well? Valving, shims...etc?? I have an idea but I am never did any fork work before.
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

Why not send them to an expert? Just curious, as I'm not sure anyone will be able to tell you what size shims to use, how to revalve, etc. But I would think you'd want to do both of those things in addition to replacing the springs. Sorry, I have no idea how to do it...
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't think there's much of a difference in spring manufacturers. It's the valve kit that makes the big difference. Someone like Thermosman can install all Ohlins internals for around $700.
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

That may be the best option. But I still would want to know what parts I need so I can price them and prepare a budget. I could just give them to someone and tell them to give me an overall price but for two reasons I dont plan on going that route. One is I cant seem to find a reputable suspension tuner in my area...not just someone who sells parts but knows how to help me set up the bike...and secondly...I am cheap so I want to be able to shop around for parts to get the best deal. Get shims from vendor A...springs from Vendor B...etc. So either way I will probrably by the parts myself. I highly doubt I will install the parts myself though...I tend to pose a danger animals and bystanders when I use power tools...
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't think there's much of a difference in spring manufacturers. It's the valve kit that makes the big difference. Someone like Thermosman can install all Ohlins internals for around $700.

How about just for parts not installed?
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

If there's no reputable suspension tuners in your area, then who are you going to get to install the parts that you purchase? Not trying to be an ass, but I'd try and get it done right the first time by sending them to someone like Thermosman or Kyle, who knows suspension. Seems like there's a bit of an art to it. If Kyle does a revalve on the 1000 forks like he does for the 929/954, it's $330 +$100 for the springs. I don't know how much you'd spend buying the parts separately and then having someone install them, but you may not save any money if it doesn't work right. Just an opinion.
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If there's no reputable suspension tuners in your area, then who are you going to get to install the parts that you purchase? Not trying to be an ass, but I'd try and get it done right the first time by sending them to someone like Thermosman or Kyle, who knows suspension. Seems like there's a bit of an art to it. If Kyle does a revalve on the 1000 forks like he does for the 929/954, it's $330 +$100 for the springs. I don't know how much you'd spend buying the parts separately and then having someone install them, but you may not save any money if it doesn't work right. Just an opinion.
Suspension and brakes are not the place to cheap out if you're gonna mod.
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

I know a lot of good installers that have a lot of experience installing suspensions...but tuning is a different story. Ideally I would want someone local so I could ride the bike give them feedback and get a suggestion on adjustment.

Also I didnt think a revalve would be so cheap...what does he actually do with his revalve? Is he adjusting stock valves or changing them. I know motors a lot more than I know suspension.

By the way I value all opinion...I dont think you are being an ass at all. I appreciate the suggestions.
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Suspension and brakes are not the place to cheap out if you're gonna mod.
I myself am cheap...but I want good quality equipment...I just want to shop around for price. I will pay the premium if I have to but I just like to have options. I bought a new condition Two Brothers slip on for my last bike for $100 because I was cheap enough to get up at 3am to bid at the last minute on Ebay. I dont want Joe Schmoe brand suspension installed by Lefty Leftwright...but I have priced the same Ohlins parts and have found large differences for the same part. It just seems that not one vendor is the lowest for everything just some things.
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

Kyle revalves the stock components, at least on the 929/954. On the 929/954, he gets them working nearly as well as the Ohlins forks.

Unfortunately, I don't think he's had the same success with the 1000rr forks, at least from what I've read on this forum. Seems like Honda downgraded them for some reason. So, if he can't revalve the stock components, it's not going to be that inexpensive. I think you said you've already spoken with him? If not, call him and see what he recommends for 1000rr forks. It's unfortunate that they don't seem to be as easily "fixed" as the 929/954 forks. It may be a more expensive fix. Kyle's prices are good, though. I just got my forks back from him after sending them for a service/respring (respring because I lost a lot of weight). He revalved them for me 3 years ago and it's a night and day difference, even for someone like me who doesn't know a whole lot about suspension. It just made the bike handle a lot better.

Good luck! I was trying to find someone around here I could trust to just do the service. I ended up sending them back to Dan. Now I need to find someone to reset sag.
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Good luck! I was trying to find someone around here I could trust to just do the service. I ended up sending them back to Dan. Now I need to find someone to reset sag.
Thanks. What was your turnaround time with Dan?
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Thanks. What was your turnaround time with Dan?
He usually turns them around in 24 hours, at least for servicing. The shipping is the longest since UPS ground is cheapest...a week to get there and a week to ship back.
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

Thanks i just got off the phone with him and he told me the exact same thing. Thanks.
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

So, just curious, can he revalve the 1000rr forks' stock components? Or does he have to replace the stock valves with another brand like Ohlins?
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Re: 1000RR Suspension

He said he can revalve them. I didnt talk to him about the difference between the 1000rr and the 954/929. The total price for revalving will be about $650 which I think is excellent if it is good as he says. He also wants about $980 for the rear. If I wanted Ohlins internals for the front it would be about $1750. Does anyone have any experience with the revalved Dan Kyle forks as opposed to the Ohlins internals done by Dan Kyle?
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