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post #1 of 18 Old 05-02-2006, 2:11 AM Thread Starter
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Tired suspension?

Anybody know how long the stock suspension can go between rebuilds? I have 12k miles on my '02 954 and it's just feeling "off." Tires are good, pressure good, haven't changed settings...
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Re: Tired suspension?

Off to DK they go. Sounds like your ready for a freshing up and rebuild with the correct hardware in there this time.
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Re: Tired suspension?

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Off to DK they go. Sounds like your ready for a freshing up and rebuild with the correct hardware in there this time.
"Correct" being...?
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Re: Tired suspension?

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"Correct" being...?
"Correct" referring to how they should have come from Honda to begin with. Ohlins internals and Dans thorough knowledge of polishing work, etc. Give him a call. 866-667-4925.
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Re: Tired suspension?

dial in the compression and rebound damping for a quick free fix. don't change preload unless sag is execessive.
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Re: Tired suspension?

p.s. what are your suspensions settings? how much do you weigh???
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Re: Tired suspension?

Thanks for Dan's number (at first, I thought by "DK" you meant Denmark!)
I looked at Ohlins internals last night... not as much $$$ as I'd thought (I know I can't afford full Ohlins replacements!)

RE: my current settings... Since I'm at work at the moment, I don't have 'em. I weigh about 170 (prolly a bit more with leathers), and I'll look up the settings when I get home tonight (or, if I have a long enough break, I'll go out and count turns!)... stand by
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Re: Tired suspension?

You'll need some stiffer springs in front to go with a revalve. On a 954, you don't need the Ohlins valving, just a reshimming of the stock valves works great.

Put the money of ohlins valves to an ohlins shock.

If you are short of funds, IMO, best to put in .95kg springs in the front and change the oil (but don't do the revalve), and buy an Ohlins rear.

If you've got about $1500, do the fork revalve and spring and rear shock. It'll be the best money you ever spent on a bike.



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Re: Tired suspension?

IF the suspension settings are not all the way in already, just go two turns in and test ride. that will stiffin things up, but again it's only temporary, fork work will be needed eventually.....p.s. i think my stock suspension works great after i dialed it in.........huh, i must be something different from the norm............not sure what yet...........
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Re: Tired suspension?

I'm going to do a track day next month, and there'll be some suspension guys on hand to really get it tweaked up. I think I can afford to do some new fork springs/oil prior (the rest of my bux are going to track day right now!)... Meanwhile, I'll try the two turns trick for a ride or three and see where it goes.

So far, it's not bad enough to lose confidence in turns, but I can tell she's headin' that way!
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Re: Tired suspension?

OK... I changed rear compression damping. Now all settings are factory default except rear preload:
Front preload: 7T from soft
Front compression damping: 2T from hard
Front rebound damping: 2T from hard
Rear preload: 3 (factory default is 4)
Rear compression damping: 2T from hard (was at 3T from hard)
Rear rebound damping: 2T from hard

I'll see if changing rear comp damping 1 turn is noticable...

Have never touched height/sag (previous owner might have... not sure how to tell )

I also weighed myself with all gear: 188 (in street clothes--no shoes--I'm 172)

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Re: Tired suspension?

how does it feel now as opposed to before??
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Re: Tired suspension?

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Have never touched height/sag (previous owner might have... not sure how to tell )

I also weighed myself with all gear: 188 (in street clothes--no shoes--I'm 172)

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I'm about your weight. Just max out the preload on the forks if you have the stock springs. It will still have too much sag, but it will be better.



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how does it feel now as opposed to before??
I don't know... I had to take the cage to work today
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Re: Tired suspension?

OK... rode today. I'm surprised that a tiny change like that makes that much difference! It's a LOT better!
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