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929 spools

O.K. I tried searching, but with no luck. I just got a set of stands but am not sure where I can get inserts for the rear spools and exactly how to do it. Any help or pics would be much appreciated.

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Re: 929 spools

I don't know anything about this company so I can't necessarily endorse them, but after a quick google search they came up...

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Re: 929 spools

I actually have the spools, I need to find the inserts to mount them on the swingarm.

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Re: 929 spools

The 929 doesn't have swingarm stand mounts, correct?

What I did with my 99 900RR swingarm was sand down the anodizing on a 3" section of each side of the base of the swingarm (where you want them to go), then I took the arm to a welding place and had them TIG weld on a 3/4" aluminum bung to each side. I think they used a hexagonal (or round) solid bar stock.

Then it was simply a matter of drilling and tapping the M8 thread and voila!
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Re: 929 spools

That is right lagas the 929 models did not have swinging arm spools so like Sime one will have to weld something one. It was the 954 & 1000 that were fitted with them. Does point out that Honda was lacking a bit of thought at the time & a lot complined about it during '00 & '01.
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Re: 929 spools

I'm just changing out the swingarm to a 954 swingarm, problem solved
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Re: 929 spools

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I think what you are looking for are thread inserts try LockhartPhillipsUSA look under the steering dampers. hope this helps
That's what I'm looking for!!!!

Thanks for the help everyone.
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The 929 doesn't have swingarm stand mounts, correct?

What I did with my 99 900RR swingarm was sand down the anodizing on a 3" section of each side of the base of the swingarm (where you want them to go), then I took the arm to a welding place and had them TIG weld on a 3/4" aluminum bung to each side. I think they used a hexagonal (or round) solid bar stock.

Then it was simply a matter of drilling and tapping the M8 thread and voila!
Sorta like this I found this much easier than swapping out a swing arm.....I just left my bike together my buddy did the rest.
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Sorta like this I found this much easier than swapping out a swing arm.....I just left my bike together my buddy did the rest.
Great pics! Now are those welded on and then tapped?

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Re: 929 spools

Putting Spools on my 929

Tools Needed:
1/2" High Speed Drill Bit
Center Punch (to keep drill bit from walking)
Small rat tail file (Not necessary, but handy to clean out the holes)
19mm Box end wrench
1/2" Socket and wrench, or 1/2" box end
Hammer
Something to measure, with mm's. Feel free to convert to inches if you want.
6mm Allen Wrench
2 Valium



Well the first thing I did was gather all of the tools, and order the parts. I used Lockhart Phillips spools and inserts (formally called Swingarm Button Kits and Riv-Nuts). The spools need to be 8mm. I used the 213-10 part number for the spools, and the inserts are part #213-41, which includes 6 inserts, and the tool to crimp them in place.


Measuring was the fun part, and I was shaking the entire time. I went 40 mm forward from the adjusting plate. On the left side I went 30mm up from the bottom, and on the right side I went up 15mm. One thing to note here, and I tried to illustrate this in the pictures, the measurement is to the center of the hole. Where the 40mm and the 15mm intersected is where I punched my mark and drilled. Same with the 40mm and 30mm intersection. Once you have the swingarm punched, then now is the time that you need to take the valium. Use a 1/2" drill bit to make the holes. I purchased a new drill bit, and a new punch to mark the place where I was going to drill, and to keep the bit from walking up the swingarm and gouging it. I tried to stay as level with the bike as possible while drilling so that I would have the holes centered. The only thing I noticed was that the bit was shaking pretty bad when drilling probably because it was chewing off so much metal at once. It was a little unnerving, but turned out to be just fine.


Once you get the holes drilled, there is a tool from LP that you use to basically crimp the inserts into place. Put the inserts on the tool, and then you drive them into the holes using the hammer. Once the insert is in the hole, you use a 19mm wrench on the large nut, and a 1/2" drive on the screw running through the nut and into the insert to crush the insert. The instructions from LP say to use Loctite on the inserts if they are too loose in the hole, and also that the hole should be just tight enough that you have to drive the inserts into. With a 1/2" bit, the inserts were pretty tight fitting. In fact, I used a very small file to clean off the edges.

Once the insert is crushed into place, you can then screw in the spool, which takes a 6mm allen wrench.
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Great pics! Now are those welded on and then tapped?

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Welded then tapped my friend is a genius with the TIG and aluminum.....BTW my buddy says a good machinist/welder depending on his rate should only charge about $80 that's good money spent for the ease of maintenance.
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Re: 929 spools

why are you guys bothering with all that nonsense ? When you can just go on Ebay and order a swingarm stand with paddles that hold the swingarm underneathe. Less than $60 shipped = problem solved !

eBay Motors: CHROME MOTORCYCLE REAR SWINGARM LIFT STAND FOR HONDA (item 140085012657 end time Feb-18-07 09:10:50 PST)
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I'm just changing out the swingarm to a 954 swingarm, problem solved

me too. just waiting for my new rear sprocket so I can do chain/sprockets and swingarm at once.




remember when adding in those inserts to measure it properly (I think there's a write up in the Knowledge Base). the 929 swingarm is asymmetrical so one is gonna be higher than the other. I was sure I did it right on my old 929, nope I was off so it still sat at an angle on the stand.

also keep that in mind if having pieces welded on. one side is gonna have to be a bigger piece to sit lower. so you end up with the bike level once its on stands.

if you can't convince them, confuse them.
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why are you guys bothering with all that nonsense ? When you can just go on Ebay and order a swingarm stand with paddles that hold the swingarm underneathe. Less than $60 shipped = problem solved !

eBay Motors: CHROME MOTORCYCLE REAR SWINGARM LIFT STAND FOR HONDA (item 140085012657 end time Feb-18-07 09:10:50 PST)
I've seen bike come off the paddle stands so I guess for piece of mind it's worth it to some for me only cost a few beers......
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