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No second gear !!

Hi,

Has anybody else suffered this same problem with the 99 blade or any other ?

Problem is, when in 2nd gear @ 6000rpm, I get thrown back into neutral. So far it only seems to be 2nd gear though. I even tried holding the gear in place with my foot whilst accellerating to see if it still throws me out, and you can actually feel something trying hard to push it into neutral.

A friend suggested perhaps bent selector fork ?? But I'm told this could be quite costly + engine out jobby.

Can anybody help ? It's Very annoying.
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Re: No second gear !!

I'll take shift forks for $500, please.
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Re: No second gear !!

I'm trying to fix it not sell it !
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Re: No second gear !!

He's trying to say he'd bet $500 that you have a bent shift fork
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Re: No second gear !!

but if you want to sell it for $500.....
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Re: No second gear !!

Ok I understand. Not willing to sell it, I need it lol.

So is this an easy repair do you know ? straightenable ? replacement ? engine out ?

Appreciate any help on this one !
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Re: No second gear !!

Start with getting a service manual, I have found if you know how to read (I'm guessing you do since you are posting on here) and you are able to follow directions everything is able to be done by yourself on these things. Make sure you have ALL the tools you will need to get the job done BEFORE starting the job. The service manual will tell you if any special tools are needed for the job
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Re: No second gear !!

Cheers !

This is definately my normal procedure, this one is just a bit new to me that's all.

Will check manual now, but i'm pretty sure it won't mention bending the shift into place.

will keep u posted
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Re: No second gear !!

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Will check manual now, but i'm pretty sure it won't mention bending the shift into place.
I bet you're right. go look at ron ayers to see how much new will cost ya
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Re: No second gear !!

Could also be worn out "dogs" on the gears.
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Re: No second gear !!

cheers sinfuldragon ! good website, learn something everyday.

New shift forks $47 per peice, new rod $47 (just incase)

mmmm, worn dogs ? even if its only jumping out of 2nd ??

I'll investigate, thanks for th input.
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Re: No second gear !!

get complete trannys on Ebay for dirt cheap,used of course.But at least you have alot of extra parts if ever needed
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Re: No second gear !!

Since second gear normaly gets the most abuse from shifting the gears don't fully engage and the dogs sometimes use the just the outer portion, this wears at an angle. After enough time the angle becomes such that when the power gets ups there, around 6000 rpm's, it causes the dogs to slip off each other. When you have the transmission out be sure to inspect all the gears and the dogs, second gear is usualy the first to wear but all the gears should be inspected. There are some companies, can't remeber the names, that will back cut the dogs to ensure proper engagement, it isn't that expensive around $120/set.
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Re: No second gear !!

Welcome to anther edition of what happens to a 900RR tranny when you do too many clutchless upshifts
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Re: No second gear !!

I disagree with the clutchless part. A clutchless upshift done correctly put no more wear on the tranny than using the clutch, in fact I think that using the clutch gives you a false sense of security, Just because you use the clutch doesn't mean you made a good shift.
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