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post #1 of 32 Old 08-25-2007, 3:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

Just wondering if any of you guys switched from the endless chain, back to the clip on link style , when you did your chain/sprocket replacement ? I had a chain come apart on my last bike ( zx1000) doing over 115mph, which resulted in a hole being ripped into the side of my motor when the clip on master link decided to come off.Benefits of clip on link = being able to take your chain off to clean whenver you want, can't do that with a stock chain so simply.Also, how good are those "screw on " type links ? I 'm assuming you would be using high strength Locktite on that type.....any of you drag strip racers using clip links ?
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

I have a 525 X-ring chain, I am using a clip on type master link. I tried to remove the masterlink once... what a joke as it would not budge. The clip came off easy enough, but the link was on there very tight. Next chain I am going to use the rivet on link. I agree a chain coming off at high speed or even on the freeway at normal speeds could be very dangerous.


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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

Maybe this is why Buell uses the superior technology of the "toothed belt"...LOL

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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

ive had a chain clip come off twice, luckily only at around town speeds, go the rivet option, better safe than sorry........
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

Also have had a standard clip-on come off. Now use rivet type only.
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

Now this is a funny topic with bikes.

I hear so much hate for the clip link, yet im from a mx backround where ive won aus championships on em, never lost one, others have won worlds championships, raced in desert races, paris dakar etc etc, clip link.

But ok they arent road bikes, granted. I however believe that with cush drives the resonance thru the driveline is even less, hence the ability for the clip to pop off is even less.

But there is also a little known fact on putting on clip links. Clip links are pressed, or punched from a tensile steel. When you look real close at the clip itself, it is rounded on one side, and really flat on the other. Kinda like a " D " from side on. The rounded edges should always face the side link/plate, as its better for frequency/resonance etc for it to resist falling off.

And of course when the chain is on the way back to the countershaft sprocket, on the top row, the clip should be in a "C" position, not facing around the other way.

To go out of the way to make sure you never loose one, add a smear of three bond across the clip and sideplate. Wont come off, ever.

I do admit on my race bike i still peen my link over, but on my track/stunter i just use clip links so i can change gearing easy. Despite popular rumor, clip links are no weaker than peen over links, they use the same side plates, same pins you name it.

I also attribute poor chain/sprocket maintinance / lubrication to link failure.

Id say its a 50/50 thing.
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

saf...you bring up some good points, but when all all as said and done we all can agree that the riveted chain link is cheap insurance not to have what can turn into major damage to our bikes or ourselves.
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

having had a clip come off on my 400 (but the link fortunately did not come apart before I noticed it whilst lubing the chain) I have never ever used anything but a rivited chain.
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saf...you bring up some good points, but when all all as said and done we all can agree that the riveted chain link is cheap insurance not to have what can turn into major damage to our bikes or ourselves.
Flea, Im not going to disagree with you on that mate.

On my race bike i peen over, on my stunter/track bike i clip link, its just easy. Ive not lost one, but i think its also a maintinance item too. That clip will to some degree vibrate and move form day one ..... people just put em on and expect to only replace it when they do chains and sprockets later some 15,000kms later. Sadly, that isnt the case.

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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

Use the rivet link. Easy decision
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

Mine has never come off in the two or three years i've been riding with it. I still prefer the rivet type.
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

I'm a clip guy.

Guaranteed way to make a clip fall off: bend and tweak the clip trying to get it off with a dull screwdriver. Its spring steel, but that doesn't mean it can be torqued to disfigure it. When its bent, fatigue may help it break and fly off.

I *hate* rivets. If only more people knew how to use a clip.
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Re: Do you use a 'clip on' master link on chain ?

You can actually safety wire the sideplate on, i do know racers that refuse to rivet/peen because of never having a problem with clips, one being a RC-51 racer (v-twins give chains a really hard time).

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I'm a clip guy.
I *hate* rivets. If only more people knew how to use a clip.
Agreed on that, such a simple design yet so many people dont even install it correctly.

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