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Fireblade 929 info needed

Hi, just brought myself a 929 Blade, just wondered what the main differences between the 929 and the 954 are. I heard there was some fuelling problems with the 929? If so, are they easily sorted?
The bike is totally standard which is nice, with just 9000 miles on the clock, I'll be looking for a new can, any reccommendations? Nothing too loud, just a few extra horses.
Thanks in advance, James
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Very nice - shame the weathers getting bad for riding. Don’t ride it when the salt is on the road - it will kill it, my 1998 rr-w was awful by after a winter (or 2 maybe) when I had no car to use! (very long story).

No fuelling issue except the inbuilt ones for emissions so its a little flat around 5,000-5,6000rpm compared with what it could be. The were criticised when the 929 came out that it was a bit snatchy but tbh I've not noticed it with mine and thought it lovely ride - whether it was changed between 1999 and 2000 I don't know though I doubt it!

Differences to the 954? engine and fi obviously. 954 should make more power and more midrange is claimed.

HISS is new version on the 954 and has a red LED on the dash that flashes as a deterrent to thieving scum. Dash has fuel consumption display which I think is useless. The swinging arm on a 929 is not the same height each side so can sit funny on a paddock stand without using a spare on one side. The 954 solves this by being even, and has fixing points for p/stand bobbins. Think the wheel base is slightly different. Rear shock mounts slightly differently, but a 954 rear end can be fitted to the 929. couple of kg weight saving overall.

Personally I prefer my 929 to my 954 and even more happy now its had a Pciii and can.

Talking of cans, I like the blueflame I have which has removable baffles so it can be quite, or loud, or in-between – you decide. But there are lots of cans out there to choose from. Look for a RIDE magazine test – I know there was one – as some actually loose bhp!!
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Thanks for the info there Machinehead. Don't really intend riding it much untill we get some good weather next year, just wanted to get one while prices were down. I'll stay off the roads when they've been salted then.
Last bike I had was a 1993 cbr600f so I'm sure I'm gonna be surprised by the performance, well I hope so anyway.
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Hi, and welcome to the forum.
here's some more info for you, specs and what have you - I found them in my Favourites whilst tidying up today :
929: 2000 Honda CBR 900 RR Fireblade specifications and pictures

954: 2003 Honda CBR 900 RR Fireblade / 954 RR specifications and pictures


There is a more UK based 'Blade forum that you might like to know about - met some of them at a track day at Donnington Park in September (see my you-tube page - machinehead2007)

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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Thanks for the links.
Took a look at your Donnington laps, not done a track day before but definately next summer. What sort of price is it and how many laps do u get in? What about insurance?
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

£150 for the day but varies per circuit – Brands Indi or Full circuit is about the most expensive, Mallory, Oulton Park, etc seem a bit cheaper. I always have a B&B local to the track as its always an early start and you get a good breakfast to start the day, so that adds to the cost too!


On the day, as a general guide I would say you get 6 x 20min sessions, 3 morning + 3 in the pm and an initial sighting session at the start after main briefing. This is assuming no one bins it and stops the session. Donnington's a long lap, as is Silverstone. Mallory is very short so number of laps varies. I was doing just over 2min laps, with 2 to get me happy the tyres are hot, I’d reckon on 7 fast laps in a session, lots more on a short circuit. At Mallory I could to about 65-70 seconds a laps (this was before some of the more recent alterations to the circuit) so lots more laps per session.

Never bought insurance - from what I've read its actually as cheap to have a hire bike at around £200 for the day than it is to insure your own. I’ve hired bikes twice now and had a R6 2007 model at Silverstone and that was such a laugh!! I didn’t use mine that time simply because it was at the shop having the PCiii custom map being done. If its £200 for insurance and I’ve done over 15 track days then that’s £3k in insurance so I would be better off buying a cheap dedicated track bike and trailer! You can get it and for peice of mind it might help, but then again knowing you might crash your pride and joy keeps you from trying too hard!
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

hi mate welcome to the blade side.. i got my blade 929 this year, as well and im more than happy with it..

just keep an eye on ur server motor, make sure its well lubed!! as when it gos it tends to take ur ecu, out.. and then its stupid money.. to replace..

g.

ps heres a pic of my bike.. was standed, till i put a bubble screen and a fmf end can on..
needs a good polishing over winter..
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Thanks for that info machinehead, will definately have a blast at that next year, pref donnington as I know the track well.

Nice bike Garnib, what's the server motor?
Is that can ay good? I'll be after an aftermarket one, nothin too loud, just want a meatier sound!
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Hi funeebski , not long joined myself having recently bought an erion racing model so Im in the frame for more info on the 929. My previous bike was a blackbird which I had for 4 years ,sadly I can feel the power deficit on the blade and its buggered my riding style up as well but like you say , wait for better weather to come then I can get to gips with it. at the end of the day its a honda so you wont go wrong.

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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

the servo motor referred to is the motor that opens and closes the valve in the exhaust. I've read about it too but do not know it its a common thing or not, but the posts I have read do say that it it seaizes then it takes out the ECU like Garnib says. Can't remember where it is situated but the motor has a small set of gears that then attach to the two cables to work the valve - follow the cables back and you'll find it. I read an article on here that describes how to strip and lube. I've not done mine I must admit - perhaps I should?
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

i would mate if i was u..
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if you have any probs with ur electrics, this is the man to talk to..
plus he can sort most ecu faults out.. the sever motors just under ur tank.. at the back think you can get to it that way.. or you mite have to strip the plastics of..
just somthing to watch out for..
iv got to get the bike on the rolling road.. and see if they can iron that blip out at 5500rpm, to 6000..
can i ask how much you paid for you bike??
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

I paid £3100, not a major bargain by any means but it's a good genuine bike, all standard with fhsh, hpi clear and 9000 miles on the clock. Just wanted one thats been looked after and not thrashed!
What did you pay?
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Hi Garnib - can definitely recommend getting Power Commander and getting a custom map and sort the 5k flat spot sorted out! Attached is my before (red) and after (blue) curve with blueflame can. Peak up from 123bhp to 133bhp torque 64 to 67 ft lbs but importantly you'll see the line in red is flat from the 50-60 bottom mark (this is the bit around 5,000/5,600 rpm) and the gain there is really really good gain, its not all about peak power!

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I've got mine for the 3,500 mark in Feb this year and was stock, 8,000 miles, fsh, hpi clear, etc... as I wanted one that had not been F'ed around with, then went and did it myself anyway!!
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Re: Fireblade 929 info needed

Actually mine is 11000 miles, hopefully nothing major is gonna go wrong when i get it!
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