how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000 - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org
Honda FireBlade Discussion of the Honda CBR 900RR, Honda CBR 929RR, Honda CBR 954RR, and Honda CBR 1000RR Motorcycles.

User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
 
bjay51d's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-17-2005
Location: BRUNSWICK N.J.
Posts: 1,652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 20
         
how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

I cant believe that the cbr 954 is lighter than the 08 cbr1000 The 1000 looks so small. maybe its a misprint
bjay51d is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 11:15 AM
 
Join Date: 07-16-2005
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 0
 
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

Quote:
Originally Posted by bjay51d View Post
I cant believe that the cbr 954 is lighter than the 08 cbr1000 The 1000 looks so small. maybe its a misprint
You are missing the fact that the 954 is rated in dry weight, the '08 is curb weight. The '08 is lighter by a long shot.
2fast is offline  
post #3 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 11:16 AM
 
Join Date: 09-13-2006
Location: Tulsa OK
Age: 48
Posts: 2,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 66
                     
Send a message via Yahoo to bettingpython
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

The 954 is not as light as it's claimed factory weight. They are roughly the same.
bettingpython is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 3:30 PM
 
Join Date: 02-06-2007
Location: essex, england
Posts: 181
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 13
 
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

i went dwn to my local dealers yesterday and had a first look at the new bike in the flesh. shiny red .when i sat on the bike i did'nt think it felt a hell of a lot lighter than my 954. and bearing in mind that the new bike was empty of fuel.i pointed this out to the salesman who assured me that the bike was a hell of a lot lighter.but for me i don't know!
bumble blade is offline  
post #5 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 4:08 PM
 
Join Date: 09-13-2006
Location: Tulsa OK
Age: 48
Posts: 2,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 66
                     
Send a message via Yahoo to bettingpython
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

factory numbers lie....

Actual measured weigt of a stock 954 without fuel was 400lbs ready to roll 429lbs or 405 and 434lbs respectively depending on the review date and scale apparently.

Sport Bike Motorcycle Weight, Horsepower, Torque and Fuel Economy - Dimensions - Sport Rider
bettingpython is offline  
post #6 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 4:44 PM Thread Starter
 
bjay51d's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-17-2005
Location: BRUNSWICK N.J.
Posts: 1,652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 20
         
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2fast View Post
You are missing the fact that the 954 is rated in dry weight, the '08 is curb weight. The '08 is lighter by a long shot.
So it looks like the 954 is lighter...
bjay51d is offline  
post #7 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 8:03 PM
 
Join Date: 09-13-2006
Location: Tulsa OK
Age: 48
Posts: 2,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 66
                     
Send a message via Yahoo to bettingpython
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

Quote:
Originally Posted by bjay51d View Post
So it looks like the 954 is lighter...
Has anyone actually weighed a fully fueled ready to ride 08 1000rr?
bettingpython is offline  
post #8 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 9:41 PM
 
Join Date: 12-18-2007
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 0
 
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

let's face it, the 954 was (and still is) an amazing motorcycle. Even in 2008, that bike is still holding much value, looks timeless, and stands strong against today's liter bikes (mind you it's nearly 50cc's smaller and 6 yrs old). In my opinion, the 954 is still the best CBR Honda ever made...
Simon Vexed is offline  
post #9 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 11:12 PM
 
Join Date: 03-31-2007
Location: CFL
Posts: 233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 13
 
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000




ezekiel808 is offline  
post #10 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 11:18 PM
 
Join Date: 04-16-2006
Location: Middessa Tx
Posts: 1,640
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 17
     
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

Lets face it, none of these sportsbikes nowadays is anywhere near the bikes that they can be thanks to such stringent country and state laws that show their ugly faces. I mean the bikes are good, very good. But what could they be if it were not for emissions regulations and such?
rokitt51 is offline  
post #11 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 11:42 PM
 
Join Date: 12-18-2007
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 0
 
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

hey rokitt - as much as i'd like to agree with you, (and respect whatever you have to say) i'd take clean air, less sound polution, and basically better quality of life any day over having my bike unrestricted, lol. As for what bikes could be if there were no emissions or regulations... ummm, racebikes? lol, isnt that was a racebike basically is? ;o)
Simon Vexed is offline  
post #12 of 120 Old 04-02-2008, 11:48 PM
 
Join Date: 09-13-2006
Location: Tulsa OK
Age: 48
Posts: 2,559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 66
                     
Send a message via Yahoo to bettingpython
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

Lets see replace exhaust with aftermarket race spec thus getting rid of emisions valves and catalytics ...check.
Block of pair valves...check
PCIII and a custom map...check.

Oh hey that's all you have to do to bypass emissions

Relatively cheap why don't you let us know how it does Rokkit.

All I lack is the PCIII and Dyno tune....I have reached the point where it's like seriously what's the point.

I would rather ride than talk about my bike anyway.
bettingpython is offline  
post #13 of 120 Old 04-03-2008, 3:47 AM
-Z-
 
Join Date: 09-09-2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
Age: 38
Posts: 833
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 14
   
Send a message via AIM to -Z-
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Vexed View Post
hey rokitt - as much as i'd like to agree with you, (and respect whatever you have to say) i'd take clean air, less sound polution, and basically better quality of life any day over having my bike unrestricted, lol. As for what bikes could be if there were no emissions or regulations... ummm, racebikes? lol, isnt that was a racebike basically is? ;o)

I've posted about this before but in a totally different thread. There was an article in Ride Magazine from the UK a few months back where they took an 07 CBR600RR and compared it stock vs. race can & dyno-tune. They found that with a race can, while there was more noise, a properly tuned bike actually made more peak power, more peak torque, got better gas mileage, and reduced CO emissions. The only thing bad about it was that NOx emissions went up, since that wasn't something they could properly clean up without the catalytic converter.

So, with that in mind, maybe if we had a smaller, lighter, less restricting catalytic converter on our bikes, one that was set up specifically to just reduce NOx emissions, and properly tuned bikes, yes we'd have louder bikes, but maybe we'd also have better performing bikes that were also more efficient?
-Z- is offline  
post #14 of 120 Old 04-03-2008, 9:14 AM
 
Join Date: 02-06-2007
Location: essex, england
Posts: 181
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 13
 
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

was'nt this thread about how much the 954 weighed compared to the rr8. come on someone must know.both bikes fully laden with fuel.
bumble blade is offline  
post #15 of 120 Old 04-03-2008, 1:02 PM
 
Join Date: 08-22-2006
Location: Midgard
Posts: 1,084
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Reputation Power: 21
           
Re: how is the 954 lighter than 08 1000

The 954 rules. The 08 should be a LOT less, its got 6 years worth of technology that the 954 doesn't. And its ugly to boot.
steingar is offline  
Reply

  Lower Navigation
Go Back   Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org > Honda Motorcycle Models > Honda FireBlade

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
A valid e-mail address is REQUIRED. You will not have access to any site features until you activate your account using the activation e-mail that is sent to this address.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
is 954 shock w. Racetech valves is better than OEM for me? 2bitsamile Honda FireBlade 4 08-07-2006 5:24 PM
My bike is now 10 lbs lighter... Northern RR Off-Topic 69 02-08-2005 11:15 AM
Anyone owe more than what the bike is worth? Black_954 Honda FireBlade 32 10-07-2004 4:33 PM
Why is there a 180 Rather than 190 on the 1000rr? x Mako Honda FireBlade 6 04-30-2004 9:31 PM
is 954 shock better than 929? spring rates? 2bitsamile Honda FireBlade 5 03-03-2004 12:32 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome