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2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

Since I have heard so many conflicting reports of different ECU's resulting in a power loss at high RPM's between the US and EU version's of the new Blade I was hoping that people would post their dyno results of their 2008 CBR1000RR.. Im sure some of our EU members that have the new blade has had the time to put them on the dyno.. So anyone that has had their new Blade on the dyno where ever you live post the results.. If you can upload the run that's even better.. Honda has said there are no differences in power or ECU between the bikes, so the only way to get real numbers is for people to post them..

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

The only problem with that is different dynos read differently...it would be great if we could compare a Euro bike to a US bike on the same dyno.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

It sure would be.. I have just been hearing alot of talk about a 15rwhp difference.. Honda claims [email protected] the crank. Which should equate to rwhp numbers in the 150's and maybe in the lower 160's.. I just wanted to see if some of our EU members who have the new blade on the dyno got numbers in the high 160's... I understand that different dynos read different with different conditions... Have you had a chance to get your new blade on the dyno smoothrideronli?
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

do you have numbers for a stock 07 gsxr 1000 from the guys at the dyno for comparison?
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

This is dynorun on a dynostar

At first Standard bike 160 bhp at rearwheel

Modif with Rapidbike and laser exhaust not cat. anymore in the exhaust and no valve ! Result:180 bhp ! No High performance airfilter installed!!

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

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... Have you had a chance to get your new blade on the dyno smoothrideronli?
No not yet...actually got a punctured radiator so its at the dealer getting repaired.
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The only problem with that is different dynos read differently...it would be great if we could compare a Euro bike to a US bike on the same dyno.
Not true, the US bikes stop making power above 10,000 RPM. So don't look at the numbers but the power curve they make. It is not about the "peak" power as different dyno's, operators, temp, feet above sea level, etc. all make a difference but what the actual curve is.
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Not true, the US bikes stop making power above 10,000 RPM. So don't look at the numbers but the power curve they make. It is not about the "peak" power as different dyno's, operators, temp, feet above sea level, etc. all make a difference but what the actual curve is.
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There is a very long thread with extensive details over at 1000rr.net discussing this very issue. Apparently the timing on the US models is getting cut at around the 10.2K mark while the UK version continues making power up to around 12.2K. Oh, and the curves appear to be identical up to that point. The US Models basically flatlines and feathers off down hill to the same redline as the UK models.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

If it really is a timing curve and fuel curve issue then a PC with ignition module should be able to produce a decent fix
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If it really is a timing curve and fuel curve issue then a PC with ignition module should be able to produce a decent fix
It does, but should we have to spend $600 to get something that is probably a simple fix or that shouldn't have been in the first place.

Regardless, the 08 CBR is a blast to ride. I rarely hit those high RPM areas and don't need it as much as others. The midrange is monsterous. Add that to the 600 like handling and getting out of corners is a whole lotta fun.
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It does, but should we have to spend $600 to get something that is probably a simple fix or that shouldn't have been in the first place.
I guarantee it isn't a "mistake" on Honda's part. I'm sure that if there really is a difference it is there for a reason. Most likely to meet emissions, noise, or some other legality.
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I guarantee it isn't a "mistake" on Honda's part. I'm sure that if there really is a difference it is there for a reason. Most likely to meet emissions, noise, or some other legality.
Well, we have discussed all the legalities that could cause them to do this but there are no known laws that govern anything at such a high RPM. Plus, none of the other brands are affected. If it was a law, they would all have to abide.

Some are wondering that since some of the SBK teams had crank issues at higher rpms, that they are possibly limiting the power to try to maintain longevity. At this time, its anyones guess really.

If anyone is interested in joining the on going saga, head on over: 08 CBR1000rr is less powerfull in the us than anywhere esle! : Honda CBR 1000RR Motorcycle Forums: 1000RR.net

EDIT: Beware, its a LONG thread.

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I guarantee it isn't a "mistake" on Honda's part. I'm sure that if there really is a difference it is there for a reason. Most likely to meet emissions, noise, or some other legality.
That would be a no, no and no.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

Its gotta be there for a reason. Honda doesnt do stuff like this just to piss people off
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR Dyno results US vs EU..

But they have though and thats the point.

Glad that i live in the UK................................
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