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dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

was wanting to order a scotts or gpr damper. the parts counter person at the local shop saying that they leak and that i should just go with a linear ohlins damper for my 929. either way he would have to order if i bought thru him. i cant believe its not a good product so many people are running these any input guys
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

I have 9,000 miles on my scotts(ohlins) rotary and I love it. No leaks or problems of any kind.
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

im guessin it bs. he said it had something to do with a new casing being used sounded like a line o crap 2 me. thats why im consulting u guys instead of takin a kids word 4 it.
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

actually in the Traxxion "suspension for mortals" video, max also says the rotary dampers are not good for sportbikes, only for dirtbikes.. i have a Scotts on mine, without issue for about 25K miles.. I would prolly grab a Ohlins tube style damper if i had to do it again though..

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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

I had a GPR2 on my kawasaki for 12000 miles. I loved it and never had any issues. The top mount set up makes adjusting on the fly very convenient.
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

Your typical parts counter dweeb knows a little about a lot...take what he and Max McAllister say with a huge grain of salt (especially depending on which manufacturer Max is currently contracted with). Rotary dampers are very effective in controlling head shake on both dirt and sportbikes. Either Scotts or Ohlins are excellent dampers.

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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

The thing I like about the Scotts(Ohlins) rotary damper is the high and low speed damping. I can keep the low speed all the way down so it turns like I do not have a damper, But even though I can not feel it I know it is working because I have not been scared on my bike since I installed it. I run track days at Barbers and the difference is night and day.
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

Great input guys!!

I heard the same BS a couple times, but I never believe what dealers say about specific parts. They just want to sell something.

I have been looking for a Scotts or GPR damper and this site has been an invaluable resouce in all of my dealings in the wonderful (and sometimes corrupt) motorcycling world.

Thanks to all!
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

i personally don't have experience with anything other than the HESD on my 1k but i have one friend that swears by the gpr's and another that has a zx10 and absolutely hates his ohlins.. any of the top brands that have been around for a while will do wonders especially for the 929/954...
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

the oly bad thing i have heard about rotary is that some of them actualy need to drill your top triple...i would never do that.
I have a hyperPro CSC and it transformed my 929.Before i put it,i have had some major tank slappers on the crappy roads.
Get whatever type you like,they all do the job!
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

You should read this thread.

GPR V4 Damper for K7-K8 : Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums: Gixxer.com

It states that GPR rotary dampers had some problem with leaking oil. It appears that the problem is fixed as long as you get a newer unit.

According to people in the thread GPR had either a design problem or defective oil seals from their supplier.

The Scotts rotary damper (which is an ohlins) aparently does not have this problem.

Perhaps the counter person assumed the GPR oil leak issue was applicable to all rotary dampers.

From the information in the thread the Scotts appears to have a better warranty....
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

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Your typical parts counter dweeb knows a little about a lot...take what he and Max McAllister say with a huge grain of salt (especially depending on which manufacturer Max is currently contracted with). Rotary dampers are very effective in controlling head shake on both dirt and sportbikes. Either Scotts or Ohlins are excellent dampers.
+1000. Very well said. I love my Scott's top mount. Issue free.
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Re: dealer said bad things about rotary steering damper

I own a Scotts damper. But the linear dampers are better. They have less slop than the rotary ones do. That being said, mine hasn't let me down yet.
If I had to do it again, I'd buy the Ohlins linear (shock style) damper.

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