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post #16 of 27 Old 11-25-2003, 5:46 PM
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Re: Dan Kyle work question

Another good example is Max blaming a guy's suspension problems on the Moriwaki link that Dan sells. Problem was the guy wasn't running the Mori link at the time...

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Re: Dan Kyle work question

I've meet Max and seen the shop. From talking with him and DK....Max is more of zuk man and DK is the Honda man. Max didn't know to much about the (new at the time) 954 forks other than that they have more stiction than most and are way undersprung. I won't disagree, mine use to stick bad (like 10mm!)

I ant even going to start on the hole size....I've read all the posts and heard it directly from both Max and DK. ...I don't have the knowledge to agrue effectively!
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Re: Dan Kyle work question

I've read a bit and it is my opinion Max is Physics-ally challenged. (some of the old threads had some of my specific reasons) The valves aren't the problem...fyi, Honda's look remarkably similar to Ohlins. I'm sure you could get serious in your racing and move beyond Ohlins too though...



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Re: Dan Kyle work question

Having had the good fortune to work on a couple of HRC spec Showa forks, I can tell you that they can be every bit as good as Ohlins, in fact better in some respects. The interesting thing is that the valves are very similar to the ones found in the 929/954 and RC51. They have the ti-nitride surfacing and the seals are "looser", but other than being well setup and blueprinted, they aren't really that much different than the production items.

As an aside, Max told me that the 929 forks were the finest production inverted forks he had ever seen. Two weeks later he told me they were a total POS and should be replaced before attempting to ride the bike on the track. Interesting stuff . . .
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Re: Dan Kyle work question

Why'd I know you were going to bring those up.

Actually at Nankai in Japan you could buy some of the "trick" Showa bits.



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Re: Dan Kyle work question

Like others have said, Dan is not going to sell you valves or anything else if it is not going to make an improvement. He knows you are wasting $ and he'd rather you use that on another product he sells to increase the motorcycle's performance On the RC's if you are over 185-190, his fork job retains the stock springs. The showa forks are excellent on the RC and the 929/954, they just aren't sprung for our weights.
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Re: Dan Kyle work question

Dan will sell you Ohlins valves if you insist. But he'll try to talk you out of them first.



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Re: Dan Kyle work question

BTW, if someone wants my DK forks w/springs (185lb rider) and is local here in Ohio we can work a deal before my bike is sold. Don't want to do the long distance thing with the forks.

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Re: Dan Kyle work question

I haven't had him work on my bike but he has been very helpful
on the phone.

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Re: Dan Kyle work question

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I haven't had him work on my bike but he has been very helpful
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I wouldn't make a habit of it, but I even called him on a Saturday from the racetrack this year!

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Re: Dan Kyle work question

I've had traxxion forks and dk forks. Both were awesome IMO.

Having said that, Dan is MUCH more pleasureable to work with. The guy is super nice, met him at rogue VIR last year. Super duper support after the sale too. And as stated above, he is more of a honda guy, whereas most racers race zooks, so thats what max knows...

Dan seems to do things out of wanting to help, max seems to do them out of seeing what it can do for him...
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Re: Dan Kyle work question

I met Max at Barber this year. He's a nice guy in person and can be pretty funny on the WERA boards at times. I just don't have confidence in his knowledge or business practices...

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