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post #1 of 48 Old 12-11-2003, 8:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

I've been using Mobil1 for about a decade, and only recently did I switch to something else (Amsoil). It's always worked for me, right at the usual 7.5K change intervals. I got an oil sample from Blackstone Labs on the last few quarts that I ran through my WRX. It had been driven far, and hard in the 8K of the oil's lifetime. Despite that, the results came back that it would've been good for at least another 4K. I currently have over 10K on the Amsoil in my WRX, and just today changed the filter and topped it off, likely extending its functionality for another 10K.

Well, my experience is not unique: http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html

Some of the most interesting info on that link (topping off, rapid wear up until 3K, etc) is at the bottom.
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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

Dude Kudos for taking the time to investigate this, it will save you $ in the long run. The filter always wears out first. Amsoil rates their stuff for 20k, and I wouldn't hesitate using it that far either with a filter swap in between. Don't hesitate to do the same thing in your bike. I wouldn't go as long between changes on a bike, but 10-12k is totally realistic.

A good quote from that site.

"What this means is that compulsive oil changers are actually causing more engine wear than the people who let their engine's oil get some age on it."

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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

Good, I guess I'll stop worrying when I go over the specified oil change interval on my bike and truck! Does the same hold true for semi-synths, like Honda HP4? That's what I'm currently using, although I'm contemplating switching to a full synth like Amsoil or Motul.
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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

Shame we do not get Amsoil here in Aus.

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Wow, great info 2OH, thanks for posting that!
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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

Just a general question here: don't the use of full syn oils simply extend the change intervals as opposed to providing a substantial increase in component protection? Reason I ask is, beyond the slippery shifting (which admittedly is a nice plus), I can't see getting away from my dino oil or semi-syn. The work involved in an oil change on a naked bike is so small anyway, I don't mind the eight or ten minutes work.
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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

Bit off topic, but not too much.

I have noticed in my new truck that the oil pressure is a bit high. Almost 60 psi especially when it is cold outside. What do you think about running a lighter weight oil in the winter time?

I'm nearing 3000 miles and beginning to think about my filst oil change. I think I have a coupon for a free oil change from the stealer so I may do that for another 3000, then switch to Mobil 1 or Amsoil. What do you all think?

Thanks for this article. I sent it to my dad as well.

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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

I don't care what the recommended interval is. I'm changing the oil frequently enough that maybe I can spot a potential problem before it becomes a real expensive one. I used Mobil 1 this year.

Is a paradigm worth 20 cents?
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Bit off topic, but not too much.

I have noticed in my new truck that the oil pressure is a bit high. Almost 60 psi especially when it is cold outside. What do you think about running a lighter weight oil in the winter time?

I'm nearing 3000 miles and beginning to think about my filst oil change. I think I have a coupon for a free oil change from the stealer so I may do that for another 3000, then switch to Mobil 1 or Amsoil. What do you all think?

Thanks for this article. I sent it to my dad as well.

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I wouldn't run anything thinner than 10w/30 unless you're way up in Canada or Alaska. Most manufacturers recommend 5w30 which is I'd rather take a whiz in my engine before putting something that thin in there.
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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

The vast majority of engine wear is at cold start-up, and the 5-30 will be better for this, especially when cold. I would not go thinner, but I would use this oil.

Also, an engine is designed to the oil. This means the tolerances in the parts are set-up tighter for thinner oils. IF (and that's a big IF) the dipshits at GM designed the engine properly for 5-30, 10-30 will create more wear.



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IF (and that's a big IF) the dipshits at GM designed the engine properly
Exactly my point.

Also, if you use synthetic, it bonds to the metal better, therefore you'll have more oil on your cold engine parts before start up, compared to conventional motor oil
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I wouldn't run anything thinner than 10w/30 unless you're way up in Canada or Alaska. Most manufacturers recommend 5w30 which is I'd rather take a whiz in my engine before putting something that thin in there.
There is a danger in running oil that is too heavy. I figure Chevy knows more about this than I do so I trust the 5w30 in the summertime, but I'm concerned about the winter.

Probably woudn't be an issue, but I could also run dino oil too. I mean the manufacturer doesn't call for running synth, but I'm going to do it anyway.

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I wouldn't run anything thinner than 10w/30 unless you're way up in Canada or Alaska. Most manufacturers recommend 5w30 which is I'd rather take a whiz in my engine before putting something that thin in there.
Why do you say this? At operating temp the 5w30 should be the same viscosity as the 10w30 should it not? It's only at startup temps where the 5w30 would be different correct which would be beneficial in colder enviros.....
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Re: Mobil1 synthetic oil testing - good to 18K?

HD, follow the manual. If I remember right my 2001 Silverado had a temp/oil viscosity chart. Find your temp and pic your oil, but I wouldn't stray from that. I'm sure GM tested to the cold temps you'll have it in...



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HD, follow the manual. If I remember right my 2001 Silverado had a temp/oil viscosity chart. Find your temp and pic your oil, but I wouldn't stray from that. I'm sure GM tested to the cold temps you'll have it in...
That's good advice I guess. I'll do that, but I am going to switch to synth soon.

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