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Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

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This is the spec:

FULL OHLINS ROAD AND RACE SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR
OHLINS STEERING DAMPER WITH HARRIS MOUNT
FULLY ADJUSTABLE ARROW REARSETS
FULL TITANIUM AKRAPOVIC EXHAUST FRONT TO REAR
DYNOJET STAGE 3 POWER COMMANDER WITH SOFTWARE AND INSTRUCTIONS
CARBON FRONT FENDER
GENUINE REAR SEAT COWL HADLIGHT LENS COVER
TINTED DOUBLE BUBBLE SCREEN
R G RACING CRASH BUNGS
PADDOCK STAND BOBBINGS
STEALTH SUPERSPROX REAR SPROCKET RENTHAL FRONT
D.I.D X RING GOLD CHAIN
NEW BATTERY
NEW PIRRELLI DIABLO TYRES
ALL HISTORY ETC

25K Miles on the clock and the seller is asking for 3K for it, very cheap considering most 954s go for more than that. The rearsets would indicate a former race bike. Going to look at it over the weekend, anything you'd recommend looing out for? Did a HPI check, nothing reported.

And if it has been raced, should I not touch it?
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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

Oh, and the HISS has apparently failed on it as well, although the owner is getting it fixed.
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if it had been raced, whats the problem? Racers usually take really good care of their bikes in terms of maintenance. Are you worried about it being bent?
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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

Sounds like a track bike. I would take a bike that has been pushed by a enthusiast over a sunday rider's bike anyday.. Just check the basics, testride and check gears, engine etc. And if you don't want the full exhaust and Ohlins forks I'll take them off your hands..
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its about $4800 US, not a bad deal for the upgrades and the bike their on. Ride it, and if its straight, and clean, buy it!!
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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

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This is the spec:
FULL OHLINS ROAD AND RACE SUSPENSION FRONT AND REAR
OHLINS STEERING DAMPER WITH HARRIS MOUNT
FULLY ADJUSTABLE ARROW REARSETS
FULL TITANIUM AKRAPOVIC EXHAUST FRONT TO REAR
DYNOJET STAGE 3 POWER COMMANDER WITH SOFTWARE AND INSTRUCTIONS
CARBON FRONT FENDER
GENUINE REAR SEAT COWL HADLIGHT LENS COVER
TINTED DOUBLE BUBBLE SCREEN
R G RACING CRASH BUNGS
PADDOCK STAND BOBBINGS
STEALTH SUPERSPROX REAR SPROCKET RENTHAL FRONT
D.I.D X RING GOLD CHAIN
NEW BATTERY
NEW PIRRELLI DIABLO TYRES
ALL HISTORY ETC

25K Miles on the clock and the seller is asking for 3K for it, very cheap considering most 954s go for more than that. The rearsets would indicate a former race bike. Going to look at it over the weekend, anything you'd recommend looing out for? Did a HPI check, nothing reported.

And if it has been raced, should I not touch it?
I wouldn't consider the rearsets to be track specific. I run stock rearsets and pegs on my 929 currently and I would bet many more aftermarket rearsets are bought for bikes that never see the track.
Full ohlins forks to me means they're complete forks rather than just kitted stock forks so they might be a nice touch.
The "stage three Power Commander" is a worry :-)
Since it doesn't say it's custom mapped I'd say it's less likely to be a race bike. Most people wanting to race would spend the money for a custom map to get the most out of what they've spent already.
Check the various fluid plugs for lock wiring (although I wire all my bikes whether I race them or not) and check if the radiator is running coolant or water. Coolant is not allowed in race bikes.
Being a race bike wouldn't put me off it. As already said, most racers look after their bikes much better than the average road rider.
Examine it closely, ride it and buy it or not because of what it _is_ rather than what the odometer says or its claimed history.
Things like footpegs, shift linkages, hand grips and control pivots wear over time so they should give you some idea of how it's been treated generally.
Make sure the oil is clean but if it's brand new ask why. Most sellers aren't going to spend to put fresh oil in the engine when they're selling it so it _may_ be an attempt to cover something up.
The HISS can be very expensive to fix/replace so be sure it's fixed beforehand.

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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

I think "stage 3 power commander" just means its a PC3.

if you can't convince them, confuse them.
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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

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I think "stage 3 power commander" just means its a PC3.
Yes, we know that but why doesn't the guy that bought it ;-)

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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

Thanks all for the reply, will go see it and let you know about it!!
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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

In what way has the HISS system failed?

Just be on guard - usually track bikes are normally lifted up onto the paddock stands and therefore have either loads and loads of scuffs on the rear swing arm or on the rear bobbins.

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Way too cheap... something is amiss
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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

3000.00... Ive seen some go for as low as 3.5k and as high as 5... With all those mods I'm really surprised its priced as that.

Where abouts is it?

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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

Twincam,

My thoughts exactly, it is up in the Midlands. On ebay a 100% seller he is. There is part of me tempted to buy it and resell it down here, could easily get 4K for it and then wait until the British summer is over and buy a RR6-7 that will probably go for for 4.5K.

I currently have an 01 Fazer 1000, easy bike to ride, but I don't look at it in the morning and want to ride it, far too practical...
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You could buy the bike, strip its parts and make more money than he is selling it for...

I would be inclined to buy it, take the parts I want off and then let it go with the standard parts on it. Does it come with any Service History?

The Fazers were never Super Sport bikes, more sports tourer - I was very close to buying one a few years back. Good overall bike but no way as near as powerful as the blade would be!

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Re: Buying a 954, think it may have been a track bike??

If you don't want it, I might actually be interested

As long as the wife doesn't find out

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