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cbr 929 pcIII tunes

got a CBR 929 with a d&d slip-on exhaust. just got my power commander. went on their website to find a tune but they only have a tune for the slip-on with california bike. what's the difference in the cali bike and the 49 states bike? will the tune be right for my bike?
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my bike is not a cali bike
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No it wont. The cali models have an O2 sensor in the midpipe to regulate the a/f ratio to comply with state emission laws.

I just checked. You're right on the non-cali map. Strange.

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Re: cbr 929 pcIII tunes

You've just forked out alot for an expensive pc3 but can't spare a proportionally small amount of $ for a custom map so its perfect rather than 'maybe close'? Lol.
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You've just forked out alot for an expensive pc3 but can't spare a proportionally small amount of $ for a custom map so its perfect rather than 'maybe close'? Lol.
For the vast majority of owners, the free maps are just fine.
Download a bunch of muffler maps and try them until you find one you like.

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on that. A custom map is between $300-400 which might be worth the smoother throttle and extra 5-10hp for a racer, but to the avg rider it is not necessary.
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For the vast majority of owners, the free maps are just fine.
Download a bunch of muffler maps and try them until you find one you like.
I did so, exactly. Found one that was good, definite improvement. Then spent $250 (AUD) for the custom map and its a different bike, smooth and predictable instead of twitchy and awkward. Seems stupid not go get a custom map if you've spent more than double the cost of a custom map on the pc3 itself.

$300-400 US for a custom map? I think not.

Its not about the power (who really needs more? not me), just smoothening the power out, meaning its more rideable, more confidence inspiring, etc. etc.

And as for being not necessary for the average rider, neither is a PC3. For me I just see it as value for money, ok $500 for a pc3 to get a 10% improvement, but $250 more for a custom map which makes it a 100% more enjoyable ride.

If it bothers you just think about it as part of the servicing, keeping it from running lean or rich. Extending engine life maybe, etc
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I did so, exactly. Found one that was good, definite improvement. Then spent $250 (AUD) for the custom map and its a different bike, smooth and predictable instead of twitchy and awkward. Seems stupid not go get a custom map if you've spent more than double the cost of a custom map on the pc3 itself.

$300-400 US for a custom map? I think not.

Its not about the power (who really needs more? not me), just smoothening the power out, meaning its more rideable, more confidence inspiring, etc. etc.

And as for being not necessary for the average rider, neither is a PC3. For me I just see it as value for money, ok $500 for a pc3 to get a 10% improvement, but $250 more for a custom map which makes it a 100% more enjoyable ride.

If it bothers you just think about it as part of the servicing, keeping it from running lean or rich. Extending engine life maybe, etc
$500 for a PC?
PC3USB's are under A$400 including postage from the US and serial models are heaps cheaper still.
Considering I've seen Americans paying US$100 just to have two tyres fitted I can well believe that price for dyno-tuning.
Custom mapping is great, yes, but it's well worth trying a bunch of free maps first.

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i bought my pc3 serial from this site for $125. I called several shops around the Northwest US and i am not kidding when i say $300-400.
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Re: cbr 929 pcIII tunes

My mech advised me that with the serial versions they can't simply use the tuning link software to get the bulk of the work done, instead it has to be done manually, if thats correct it may explain why they'd quote such high prices (can't be bothered so quoting a high price). Labour more costly over there
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My mech advised me that with the serial versions they can't simply use the tuning link software to get the bulk of the work done, instead it has to be done manually, if thats correct it may explain why they'd quote such high prices (can't be bothered so quoting a high price). Labour more costly over there
I'm running a serial PC2 and had it mapped by DynoTime here for A$250 so I don't know how accurate that is.

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Yeah, the standard opinion from the dyno operators here was that serial or usb, it didnt matter and would cost a fortune.
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Re: cbr 929 pcIII tunes

I got tired of paying $40 per tire and watching two greese monkeys fight with my wheel on a homemade fixture. I now have my tires fitted at normal car tire places. They rarely charge over $10 per tire and they use fancy machines that scratch the wheels less often.
Also, for $250 you can buy a wide-band and tune it yourself as many times as you like. I like aiming for 13.1 a/f at full throttle and leaner at part throttle. Some people go for high 12's, but my dyno tells me they're leaving some power on the table.

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You've just forked out alot for an expensive pc3 but can't spare a proportionally small amount of $ for a custom map so its perfect rather than 'maybe close'? Lol.
working on a tight budget and the closest dyno is about a 6 hour round trip on a good day. which is not very often in D.C. plan on it as soon as time and money are available.
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Re: cbr 929 pcIII tunes

Actually, the Dan Kyle maps are "Very close", just a bit rich = safe.
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