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post #1 of 68 Old 12-26-2003, 6:49 PM Thread Starter
 
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954 dyno break in experience

I got hold of my 954 on the 24th, picked it up in my van and drove it home. the very next morning, I had organised a break in session on a dyno with one of the more reputable tuners in Sydney (and the only one I know of who is anywhere near me)

anyway, anyone who has ever read the motoman break in article will have an idea what I did.

This tuners is method is similar, but slightly different.

When I called him to ask him to do it, I was sort of sheepish about it, thinking he would call me nuts - but his response was "have you been talking to someone I know?"

Turns out he breaks in several of the race bikes he tunes with this method.


Anyway, the procedure involved 2 oil changes, and 3 dyno sessions.

the first session was about 20 minutes (plus warm up) he basically added varying loads to the dyno and reved the engine progressivley from idle to 4000rpm, through the gears, but getting to the 4000rpm marl grdually (so the first one may have been 2500rpm, then 3000rpm etc..)

dump oil - AMAZING how much crap is in there after only about 20 km... I REALLY would not want that crap floating in my oil for another 980km!

2nd sessions lasted a little longer than an hour, and over that time, once again he worked the bike through the gears and the bike was being taken to the red by the end of the session. The clock now had 60km on it. Oil was once again dumped, and once again, more crap Iwould not want in my engine for another 940km...

final dyno session and it was bassically just 3 runs on the dyno to check the power.

Result?

A healthy baby 954 with 136.3 rear wheel HP SAE corrected @ 30 degress C,with a peak of 71.2 ft/lb torque @ 8000rpm.

He is also the same guy that does the dyno figures for the aussie bike mags (2 wheels and AMCN) as he is independant, and less likely to sway figures - my bike had 9 more rear wheel hp than the 2 Two Wheels blade (road break in with about 2000km on the clock) and about 7 hp more than the AMCN blade (road break in with about 1000km on the clock) And yeah yeah yeah, same dyno, same day etc people can put oyur hand up all you want, but there wont be rear wheel hp made up on a few degrees C and a different date.

Anyway, Very happy with my blade and I highly recommend anyone buying a new bike to break in on the dyno, and to change oil at the 20km and 60km mark (mineral oil) as I have seen what comes out with my own eyes (and have some pics that I'll post whenI find the camera)

Anyway, there ya have it

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Re: 954 dyno break in experience

Well done Z
I know lots of guys that break there race engines in on a dyno, but it's normally a engine dyno rather than a chassis dyno.
At least now you can go out and ride it properly without the hassle of not revving it etc.
When you hear the bike howling under load at full throttle, you know it's going to handle the street duties ok.
Good rwhp figures, mine had 135.4 and I ended up with 149.3, so you may be lucky and end up with over 150 after your mods.
Are you getting the mods done before your trip or not?

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Re: 954 dyno break in experience

Well, I'm just about to order the PCIII (did you get the "R" or just the PCIII? and did the tuner do any timing changes?)

I plan to do the full exhaust and PCIII pretty much when I get the PCIII (early jan) until then, I'm adjusting to the new ride - a 136hp 954 is a lot different to a lowered and softened for a very light female CBR600 with 95hp!

I have huge chicken strips at the moment becuase I'm so used to how easy it is to scrape my girls 600 that I am scared to lean the blade further. I have to force myself to lean further on some nice quiet backroad...

over 150hp would be nice but I think I'll be happy with 145 or more. I want the Arata more fo rlooks and sound rather than power - that is just a bonus. Now I just need to find a good polisher nearby to polish up the arata before installing it

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Re: 954 dyno break in experience

Cool. So do you mind letting us, or at least me, know how much the tuner charged for this break in? In U.S. greenbacks?
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was about $200 US I guess (3 hrs labour + about 1.5 hrs dyno time.)

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was about $200 US I guess (3 hrs labour + about 1.5 hrs dyno time.)

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Seems very reasonable to me since you know beyond all doubt that it is broken in properly. I'll have to keep it in mind. I appreciate this info Z.
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Re: 954 dyno break in experience

Nice one Zeeman,

I didn't have the luxury of a dyno break in. None in Tassy that I know of apart from the Harley shop and I don't think they allow a Jap bike on it.

I had the oil changed as soon as I got back to Launy from the dealer, about 150km, and yes, the oil was not very clean!! Changed with non syn, good qual mineral. Changed again at the 1000km service with what the dealer uses.

Don't have any figures etc or even seat of the pants eval. But I am VERY happy with my baby.

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Well, I'm just about to order the PCIII (did you get the "R" or just the PCIII? and did the tuner do any timing changes?)



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I just got the pc111, it did ping under medium throttle at low revs when using normal unleaded, but with a mix of premium and unleaded it went away, but it was the same before and after the remap.

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Thanks ratter - think I'll just go the PCIII since I doubt I'll be racing this one

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I think an early oil chnage is possibly the best investment one can make for the good of the bike...


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Thanks ratter - think I'll just go the PCIII since I doubt I'll be racing this one

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The bikes do not ping on premium, so i think you would be wasting your money on something that you will not use the extra feature, unless you start playing with cams or compression

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Nah, full arata will be it for power mods, suspension and brakes will be next...

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Congrats Z...how about some pics? (of the oil and the bike)


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You guy's in Australia seem to be making more power than us yanks.

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You guy's in Australia seem to be making more power than us yanks.
we have 98 octane fuel.

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