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Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

Just ordering a new set of Pilot Pure tyres for the 954 and confused as to whether I should stick with the 195/55 pirelli corsa3 currently fitted or the standard 195/50.

I have heard that the 55 profile helps it turn in better but also heard that the profile of the Pures are very steep and that helps turn in as it is.

Also wanted to know the best pressure to run on the street/twisties.

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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

55 profile generally has a better turn in, although I don't know of anybody running Pilot Pures at the moment.

Tyre pressure all depends on your climate, but I find 32/36 fine for UK summer against the stock 36/42. Also depends on how "aggresively" you ride ?!?

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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

Hey splatty, the weather averages 30 degrees c and I don't ride crazy. How do you tell if the pressures are too high or low?
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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

The 55 profile is supposed to give a bigger contact patch when the bike is leaned over but a smaller contact patch with normal riding. The 55 is probably better if you do alot of track days but may wear the center out quicker for street riding.

If your 954 needs help turning into a corner you need to check your suspension. I run very little preload in the front forks on my 954 and my bike turns into a corner fast enough now. I don't think I would like a tire that causes it to turn in any quicker. By the way I run Michelin Pures 32 psi front and 34psi rear.

To determine if your pressures are too high or too low check your pressures while riding. The pressure should raise around 3-5psi. If its up more than 5 you are running too low pressure and will cause your tires to overheat. If it barely changes you are running too high pressure and not allowing the tires to get up to the proper riding temperature.

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And too high pressure will give very little feel, while too low pressure will give the bike a "wallowing" feeling.

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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

Awesome advice guys..... Keen to hear from someone who has tried the 55 to see what they thought. Mine came with the 55 on it so I can't compare it to anything...
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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

I've went from a 50 to a 55 and it made my steering alot sharper. The 55 is a little bit of a bigger tyre sidewall wise which means a higher ride height.

Dips into corners more responsively I've found it to be great.

I'm currently running a 190/55R17 and a 120/70R17 Michelen Pilot Pures
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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

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I've went from a 50 to a 55 and it made my steering alot sharper. The 55 is a little bit of a bigger tyre sidewall wise which means a higher ride height.

Dips into corners more responsively I've found it to be great.

I'm currently running a 190/55R17 and a 120/70R17 Michelen Pilot Pures
Thanks mate, I might stick with the 55 then. How do you find the Pure's? What are they like in the wet?
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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

Good question terra, not the largest tread pattern !!

A review in the UK said they were ok, but the Dunlop Sportsmart was a better tyre in the wet. The Pure was a better dry weather tyre, just depends on what balance you want. The Dunlop was reported to be a little more "vague" than the Michelin, probably as it was more of an all rounder ?

Personally I am a Gremlin and terrified of water

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Yeah I hate riding in the wet but sometimes you can't avoid it. Bloody coastal weather...
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FWIW I still have PP2CT on mine and think they are good enough for me in the wet, and great in the dry

Any good deals for them over in Oz land ??

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The local Honda dealer had a bulk buy on michellin and is selling them for $399 a pair fitted. Not much difference in price thou between the new Pirelli Rosso Corsa at $459 , so thats why I wasan't sure which to get...
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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

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Thanks mate, I might stick with the 55 then. How do you find the Pure's? What are they like in the wet?
I hate riding in the wet, but the Pures are more suited towards dry roads they wet. They're good enough for me, ie emergency braking situations but I take it extremely cautious in the wet so I don't know its max potential.

But dry conditions, they're extremely grippy.. never at all have I ever felt any loss of confidence fully banked around a corner

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Any good deals for them over in Oz land ??
There was a deal over here in Sydney at Bikebiz motorcycles doing a set of Michelen Pilot Pures for $460 fitted, which was about $200 cheaper than my local dealer. That's where I got my Pures.
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Re: Pilot Pure 50 or 55 profile?? Also recommend pressure

Thanks mate. For the price I think I will try the Pures.
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