Re: 2009 CBR1000RR error code (PGM-FI) 43
Well I thought I would update everyone on this bizarre and elusive issue with my new CBR1000RR. Let me preface all this with that, I have never had so much trouble with a new bike ever, and so I was very upset when Honda Motor Corp. didn't step up immediately, and even seemed apathetic. I now know that they were working diligently with the shop in the background and only neglecting me and passing on bad (very bad) information to me too infrequently. To make a very very very long story short, they (Honda), finally relented and let the shop entertain swapping the ECM in the bike with one from a new bike on the dealer floor. When that one wouldn't fail (mine would only fail every now and then and with no patterns we could discern), they got the even better idea to put the 'unhealthy' one in the new bike. This caused failures that were seen by all and documented. They (Honda) immediately swooped in and stole it away to study it somewhere, as they maintained all along that a solid-state ECM could not fail and it would be fruitless to replace it and the wiring harness. They overnighted a new one from CA installed it in my bike, and then began all the thorough engine testing that I insisted on, as my bike had been running horribly rough for so long with no fix in site. Engine was OK (still hoping that is really is), plugs were replaced, oil checked for gas etc, leak down tests performed, etc, etc. I finally have my bike back and it is running OK, FINALLY. It spent three weeks of its first month with me out of commission. I ended up with a Two Bros M2 installed on the bike as part of troubleshooting the issue. They didn't want to remove the exhaust valve actuator and insisted that if the stock exhaust were removed it would eliminate the issue, as the problem of the cable wrapping the wrong way and not opening the valve would be a non-issue. Boy was everyone wrong about that. Disappointing because this advice came from the best and the brightest at Honda (top model guy in the country was very involved daily on this issue). They should have known that it was the position of the actuator (and it communication with the ECM) that was causing the issue (bizarre) and not the physical presence of the stock exhaust and it failing valve that was the culprit. In my opinion this is recall material as it renders the bike unrideable. We'll see what comes of this. I have asked for an update, but think I won't receive one. They still don't know how the ECM is failing, just that replacing it seems (so far) to have fixed the problem. Again, my issues are with Honda's reluctance to step up in a big way IMMEDIATELY, and their advice of stop gaps and workarounds and cheap fixes (I heard more than once from people that they were trying to 'limit their losses'). The f'ing audacity of telling a customer that. I am still stunned by that remark from the owner of the dealerships and service people. In the end, a 700 dollar ECM fixed the issue. It would seem people are still having trouble seeing the big picture because the costs of this issue for all involved were/are far higher than that was (lost work time, stress, demo bike I rode for days (they finally did this for me), deal on the M2, all labor costs, new battery, actuator, the time of about a million people that worked on this for weeks, etc, etc, etc. The big picture people. Now everyone at the shop hates me I am sure (too bad as that is my shop I will/must use for ongoing service), and I have a new and very unpleasant experience with Honda (my longtime motorcycle favorite) to ponder and spread the word about. I am just getting started btw.